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| dmiller
08-04-2012 10:35:54
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I recently acquired a ford 600 "ran when parked". It has no spark. The owner couldn"t find the key so I had to change out the ingnition switch. Supposedly it ran when it was parked but had a flat tire. Owner had a stroke and regretfully just let it sit.
I changed out the ignition switch and can"t seem to get spark to the coil. Does this have a clutch safety switch? Anyother things to test/check??
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| ronnie graves
08-06-2012 21:52:10
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to dmiller, 08-04-2012 10:35:54
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| check the wire from the coil to the points is it frayed
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| dmiller
08-07-2012 07:32:25
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to ronnie graves, 08-06-2012 21:52:10
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| No the wire seems fine. I bought a set of points to replace it with but have had other things come up. Hopefully will change them out some evening later this week. Everything else seems to be good. I think the old points are glazed and the sandpaper I tried to clean them with was too fine.
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| Sean in PA
08-06-2012 05:19:24
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to NoNewParts, 08-04-2012 10:35:54
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Ronnie, I think that it's more that he doesn't understand how things work so he's assuming that removing the cap and rotor somehow disconnects the points, not that this is how his tractor really works.
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| dmiller
08-07-2012 07:34:43
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to Sean in PA, 08-06-2012 05:19:24
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| No. It is definately a 600 according to the emblem on the front of the hood. The distributor is on the lower right side of the engine. The distributor cap comes off the same as on any other dist. I've ever worked with. Then the rotor, then the dust cover, then points and condenser beneath the dust cover.
It's a very common setup similar to about anything built over a 30 year time period.
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| ronnie graves
08-04-2012 21:46:35
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to dmiller, 08-04-2012 10:35:54
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| photo of dist or location ? is it down front behind the rad ?
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| Ultradog MN
08-05-2012 04:17:01
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to ronnie graves, 08-04-2012 21:46:35
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| Ronnie,
No.
Front mount dist was on the earlier Ns
After 1951 or so all fords had the dist on the Right side.
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| ronnie graves
08-05-2012 21:18:06
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to Ultradog MN, 08-05-2012 04:17:01
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| you didnt pick up on the thing I inquired about :
"he asked how was he to check the points for voltage with the cap removed ? " go reread his post I cut teeth on ford tractors if the points disconect with the cap and coil removed he dont have a 600
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| soundguy
08-04-2012 14:34:29
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to dmiller, 08-04-2012 10:35:54
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| | clutch safety switch ? :) you see any wires down there? ;)
hot wire battery to coil.. clean points.. then check her...
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| dmiller
08-04-2012 16:52:03
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to soundguy, 08-04-2012 14:34:29
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| I was sure there wasn't. I was just sorta' hoping that with Ford's being set up a bit more automotive than the IH and Deere's that I'm used to maybe there was some type of switch/button that I wasn't aware of and it would be an easy fix.
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| soundguy
08-04-2012 17:11:00
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to dmiller, 08-04-2012 16:52:03
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| do the hotwire.. then post back
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| Sean in PA
08-04-2012 12:47:22
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to dmiller, 08-04-2012 10:35:54
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| When the points are closed, both sides should measure zero volts relative to ground. When they are open, one side will still be zero volts, and the other side should be 6 volts (or 12 volts if the tractor's been converted to 12 volts) with the key on.
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| old
08-04-2012 10:58:03
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to dmiller, 08-04-2012 10:35:54
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| Again if one has sat for any time at all there stands a 95% chance that the points are closed or where closed when it was parked and that in turn causes the points to corrode and that in turn means no spark. Points that do not conduct electricity do not work and that in turn means no spark and nothing you do will fix that till you clean or replace the points. Pull the distributor cap and rotor and dust cover then turn on the ignition and open the point by hand and I bet you will not see or hear a spark at the points.
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| Ultradog MN
08-04-2012 10:48:17
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to dmiller, 08-04-2012 10:35:54
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| If you have a VOM or simple test light I would check to see if you have voltage to the coil when the key is on.
Second I would clean and regap the points.
There is a neutral safety switch but it is on the top of the tranny and has nothing to do with the clutch. Has nothing to do with spark either.
I am assuming it is turning over?
Don't go throwing a bunch of new parts at it.
Do a few simple tests first.
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| dmiller
08-04-2012 12:09:03
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to Ultradog MN, 08-04-2012 10:48:17
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| | I had misplaced my multi-meter so earlier wasn't able to do any tests. Found it. Have voltage at the coil. Old... I cleaned the points, rotor, and cap last evening. I think you are on the right track regarding the points not being quite right. Is there a way to test them using the multi-meter?? My understanding they should have voltage when closed. Can you use the tester to determine this?? Not sure how to get voltage to the points with the cap off so that I can get the tester in there to try anything?? I agree that I don't want to start throwing parts at it.
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| awhtx
08-04-2012 22:20:03
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Re: 600 no spark in reply to dmiller, 08-04-2012 12:09:03
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| File the points. I recently acquired a 640 that had been sitting for 10 years. There was no continuity across the points so I drug some brown paper through them. Still no continuity so I filed them with a points file that I still have. Continuity! And she fired right up. Then I went and bought a new set of points because once you file them they corrode again very quickly.
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