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1970 Ford 4000

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WI-Ed

07-22-2012 04:21:18
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I was planning to go look at a 1970 Ford 4000 gas model. What is the approximate price for this tractor? Are there any common problems I need to look for? Is it a very good tractor?




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Ultradog MN

07-22-2012 12:55:57
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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 in reply to WI-Ed, 07-22-2012 04:21:18  
They are known to be good tractors. Of course anything can be worn out too.
First thing is to NEVER trust the hour meter on one unless you run it long enough to actually see it turn over.
Secondly, I would bring an 8' 2X6 along to test the pto.
They are a hydraulically actuated unit and have a small brake to stop them. If the pto shaft starts and stops when you engage/disengage the handle you are ok. If it keeps turning after disengaging then take the 2x6 and wedge it into the 3 pt linkage and see if you can stop it that way. It should stop easily. If you can't stop it easily then you either have a problem in the valve or the PTO clutch pack. The valve is easy to diagnose and repair. A clutch pack is expensive and requires a rear split.
I would put the price at $4K for an average good runner all the way up to $7K for a real clean late one with nice tin, paint and excellent tires.
Around here a gasser would fetch a little less than a diesel and no PS will knock off a couple hundred too.

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showcrop

07-22-2012 05:06:56
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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 in reply to WI-Ed, 07-22-2012 04:21:18  
I always take a compression gauge and a vacuum gauge with me so that I can assess the motor internally. At a minimum check the oil pressure cold and then when up to operating temp. 40 lbs. hot would be real good, less than 15, needs new bearings. Tires are very important +/- $500-$1000. basically, $500 for scrap to $4500 for a real nice one.



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Fordfarmer

07-22-2012 06:27:14
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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 in reply to showcrop, 07-22-2012 05:06:56  
I agree, except for the last little bit.... you'd be very lucky to find a parts/scrap machine for less than $1000 here in WI, and top end is closer to $6000. (asking price, anyway... true selling price might be closer to $5000) A 'prior' 4000 with a loader sold for over $5000 at an auction near me a week ago... it was fairly nice, but not perfect by any means.



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FordManiac

07-22-2012 07:12:16
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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 in reply to Fordfarmer, 07-22-2012 06:27:14  
year around here a nice 68 or older Ford 4000 with good tires can sell as high as $6500. I actually paid $6800 for mine in 06 but it has all the original sheet metal, canopy, very good tires, and was in very good condition. Seems like though all the used Ford tractor pricing has dropped a $1k or so since 2008. Guess it depends on where you are. The Ford diesels are in very high demand around this area. Almost crazy high. If you see a good one better get to it fast or its gone.

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Greg Wolodkin

07-22-2012 04:47:38
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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 in reply to kyplowboy, 07-22-2012 04:21:18  
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These are great tractors. Prices can vary widely depending on where you are around the country, whether or not it's running, whether or not it has major issues, and depending on the type of transmission and type of front axle.

Most folks will offer less or simply walk away from the SOS (select-o-speed) transmissions. The 8 speed manual (two shifters, hi-lo range) is seen by many as a plus.

The standard 4000 ag tractor has a heavy duty front axle. That's worth more to most folks than the 4000su (super utility) model which has the wimpier 2000/3000 swept back front axle, especially if you're considering the use of a loader on the tractor. If you don't need or want a loader, the SU could be a plus as the 4000su is a nice upgrade over the smaller 3000.

There are common problems for sure but most are simple fixes. Check the basic systems (starting, idling, running in all gears, 3pt lift works with weight on the arms, PTO spins when you want, stops when you want, power steering works stop to stop) and the fluids (oil, coolant, transmission fluid, hydraulic fluid, fuel) to start with and dig deeper on anything that looks odd.
Best would be if you can take a few pictures so we know what you're looking at.. that will also help in terms of price estimates. Other ways to get an idea of asking prices include ebay, machine finder, and tractor house searches. Asking prices are usually higher than selling prices :^)

Hope this helps. Lots more information on this board so keep asking as you learn more.

Greg

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