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Mad Farmer 07-08-2012 10:58:58 4.154.207.134 Report to Moderator	Thanks for previous help and bearing with my Qs on new to me 2000 Good news is I have the I +T shop manual. 1) Ignition timing/tuneup Qs? a) I +T manual gives a way to set timing that involves checking both mech and cent. advance mechs, but no "simple" method. Also mentions "high idle" but no RPM given, I assume this is fast enough to kick in full mech. adv. (E.g "simple method" = at ide and vac advance plugged set timing at ____ degrees, or static timing using test light.) b) Site here lists timing at 3o BTDC at 475 rpm (low idle?) , I assume with vac advance plugged? Can you use this setting to static time with a 12v test lamp on points ? (assuming both adv. mechs are O.K.?) I've done a lot of other old motors using static timing. Also , while I'm in doing points, lube shaft for cent. advance mech? b) "best " tune up kit at Carquest or use OEM Ford/Motorcraft? I found NOS/OEM Motorcraft kit for same price as Carquest on ebay (motorcraft, std. ignition, and bluestrak parts). c) Tire chains. I see lots of ads giving length and width of chains, but no tire sizes. Any charts that list chain size to tire size? I'm running 12.4 X 28 on the 2000 and 11.2 X 28 on my N. Can you use oversize chains and overlap the length a bit? d) Genny question. No mention of polarizing Genny in I +T manual. I assume use same method as for a N except that 2000 is - ground? e) fluids I +T manual lists several fluids for tranny, PS, rear/hyd (M-2C41A, SAE 80 EP/M2C53A, "Ford Hyd. tranny fluid") Is GL 134 C/D O.K. in all of these? I can get 134 C ca. $10/5 gal cheaper than 134 D. f) More fluids. Previous post mentioned separate lube for steering bottom use.? Use 80 or 90 gear oil for lower steering lube? Thanks in advance (pun intended for timing question). MF [Reply]   [No Email]
Sean in PA 07-10-2012 10:20:12 71.224.102.32 Report to Moderator	Re: Yet More 2000 questions in reply to soundguy, 07-08-2012 10:58:58   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Ultradog, thank you for the correction. I was looking at my parts book when I said that the diesel and gas cam shafts were different part numbers, not at the New Holland parts web site. My parts book iis for the 1965-1975 2000, 3000, 4000 and 5000 tractors. I just went back and looked and my eyes must have dropped down a line when I was looking at the gas parts page. I was looking at the part number for the 4 cylinder 5000 engine and was comparing that to the part number for the 3 cylinder diesel version. The 3 cylinders are all the same. [Reply]  [No Email]
Ultradog MN 07-10-2012 13:19:22 70.56.166.188 Report to Moderator	Re: Yet More 2000 questions in reply to Sean in PA, 07-10-2012 10:20:12   BTDT When I convered my gasser to diesel - ie, head pump, pistons - I did check out the cam, rods, bearings, etc, etc. One thing I missed was the lifters and pushrods. So I'm running gas lifters and pushrods in a diesel. I haven't figured out yet what the difference is. [Reply]  [No Email]
Hogleg 07-09-2012 06:40:04 38.104.162.74 Report to Moderator	Re: Yet More 2000 questions in reply to Mad Farmer, 07-08-2012 10:58:58   I have a 3cyl 2000. You can use 80/90 gear oil in the lower steering or any GL4/GL5 type gear oil. However, if your seals are leaking around the pitman arms, you may be better off with corn head grease or similar Multipurpose Semi-fluid #0 EP grease. This will lube the gears but not migrate past the seals. I changed out the plug with a same size galv or black reducer to allow a 1/8 npt zerk to be screwed in. I then bought 2 tubes of grease and pumped it full without the zerk, then installed it and topped it off. I use 134 in all other uses, hyd/rear end sump, trans and power steering reservoir. If you have any water in the trans (common if the boots on the shifters are bad, drain it cold. All the water will come out first. John [Reply]  [No Email]
Mad Farmer 07-09-2012 07:12:28 4.154.217.4 Report to Moderator	Re: Yet More 2000 questions in reply to Hogleg, 07-09-2012 06:40:04   Thanks Hogleg. Seals seem good so will go with 90W for now [Reply]  [No Email]
Sean in PA 07-09-2012 06:17:36 71.224.102.32 Report to Moderator	Re: Yet More 2000 questions in reply to soundguy, 07-08-2012 10:58:58   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see The 3000 and the 3 cylinder 2000 (and the 4000 for that matter) all had exactly the same cam shaft. Well, diesels of all 3 models had 1 camshaft and all gassers had another one, but there was no difference from model to model except for the gas vs. diesel difference. I believe the HP difference between the 2000 & 3000 was mainly the governor and the fuel delivery. The 3000 had a higher maximum governed rpm rating. Plus the 3000 gas models had a larger main jet in the carburetor than the 2000. The fuel injectors on the diesel 3000 models delivered a bit more fuel to the chamber on each pop as well. A lot of the 3000 diesels had the Simms injector pump where all of the 2000's had the CAV and the 3000's that had a CAV had pumps with a different part number than the 2000's. The maximum governed rpms were at or near the optimum power performance point and the red line for the engine was way above that, so increasing the governor setting and upping the fuel delivery at max rpms was an easy HP increase. [Reply]  [No Email]
Ultradog MN 07-09-2012 18:50:45 70.56.166.188 Report to Moderator	Re: Yet More 2000 questions in reply to Sean in PA, 07-09-2012 06:17:36   I knew I had looked it up before but your comment about the cams made me go look it up at CNH again. Cam is the same for all 3 cyl engines from 65 to 81 - maybe beyond. Part #87800323 Lifters and pushrods are suposedly different between gas and diesel. [Reply]  [No Email]
Ultradog MN 07-09-2012 18:55:32 70.56.166.188 Report to Moderator	PS in reply to Ultradog MN, 07-09-2012 18:50:45   Both the 2000 and 3000 gasser used the same 158 CI engine. But the 2000D was 158 and the 3000D was 175 ci [Reply]  [No Email]
Mad Farmer 07-09-2012 07:17:31 4.154.217.4 Report to Moderator	Re: Yet More 2000 questions in reply to Sean in PA, 07-09-2012 06:17:36   Thanks Sean. So the 3000 is a factory "hot rod" of the same engine. I'll be happy with H.P. as it stands, since I'm used to my 9N, and I'm sure it will pull things like my 5 ft rotary cutter much easier. [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 07-09-2012 04:47:03 184.245.119.141 Report to Moderator	Re: Yet More 2000 questions in reply to Mad Farmer, 07-08-2012 10:58:58   i'll let someone else answer the 3 cyl timing question.. as for the oil.. the 134 spec oil post dates your 2000, so 134C is fine for that machine. [Reply]  [No Email]
Mad Farmer 07-09-2012 05:52:33 4.154.204.0 Report to Moderator	Re: Yet More 2000 questions in reply to soundguy, 07-09-2012 04:47:03   Thanks Soundguy. I'm hoping for timing I can just instal the new Dist parts, wires, plugs and wires, then set engine to 3o degrees BTDC. Then turn on ing., and turn dist until a test light just lights (points open). Tractor runs/starts O.K. now so I think advance mechs are sound. Will check timing both with timing light and static light before any work so I have a baseline for what I started with. Another question came up upon reading I + T manual. Seems the 2000 and 3000 share just about the same engine (bore stroke compression), only specs I found different was crankcase capacity and minor difference in dist mech advance. What accounts for the difference in H.P.? camshaft? [Reply]  [No Email]
soundguy 07-09-2012 06:19:31 184.245.119.141 Report to Moderator	Re: Yet More 2000 questions in reply to Mad Farmer, 07-09-2012 05:52:33   i'm not the person to ask on 3 cyl differences. ask me about 4 cyl stuff.. :) ultradog and other people more fmailiar witht he 3 cyl/65+ machines can give you all the details. I do believe there is a 157 and 175 ci difference, though, i'm not sure on the gas/diesel,year differences specifically. [Reply]  [No Email]