1964 Ford 2000 Tractor

Anonymous-0 · Jan 20, 2010

I'm looking at a 1964 Ford 2000 Tractor to buy. I was noticing the gear shifter is slightly to the left and bent in a weird fashion. I've also seen gear shifters like this on some of the older 800 series fords like the work master. What does this mean? I'm used to the 65-74 Fords. Does this tractor have a dual stage clutch? Thanks...

Mike Groom · Jan 20, 2010

I believe you're looking at a 5 speed trans. model and that would be a live PTO.

souNdguy · Jan 20, 2010

yep.. that 2000 is like a 'newer' 661... 134gas or 144diesel engine, 5spd trans, 2 stage clutch.

soundguy

Anonymous-0 · Jan 21, 2010

So other than getting used to the different shift pattern, this older 2000 would likely be a good machine? There's no cons versus the 65-74 Ford 2000's? It seems very simple to work on. This tractor I'm looking at was completely rebuilt 2 years ago and about 80 hours ago.

Hogleg · Jan 21, 2010

I know you guys like these older tractors but after running a friend's 861 with a loader and that 5 speed for a few days I was oh so happy to return to using my 8 speed with a normal shift pattern. Hitting the right forward and reliably finding reverse back and forth was a crap shoot. Guess it would not be so bad if you could set it and then run a while.

I surely believe that the 5 speed shifter has to be one of the most abnormal shift mechanisms in all of creation.

Just my opinion. but I would try it for a while if you are used to the later tractors.

John

BDT in Minnesota · Jan 21, 2010

That is a good, well built tractor.. Whichever way you go, make sure that you buy a tractor that you enjoy driving..

Dean · Jan 21, 2010

John:

Most folks that have used the Ford five speed much believe it to be just about the best "loader" transmission prior to the shuttle(s). Third and reverse are at the top, easily found and cannot be missed.

Dean

FlintmcKS · Jan 21, 2010

I have a 1963 Ford 4000 with the 5 speed and a 1 armed loader . I like the way it works, 3rd and reverse at the top make it quick to shift while moving snow around the home place. Lower gears are great for pulling a 3 bottom plow.

souNdguy · Jan 21, 2010

If you are compairing a 4cyl 2000 and a 3 cyl 2000, and both are gassers.. I'd stick with the 4 cyl.. the 2000 3 cyl were a slight economy machine.. have to look hard to find live pto.. etc.. though for sure the 3 cyl are good machines either way.

soundguy

Larry NCKS · Jan 21, 2010

I have to agree with the folk that say this would make a good light tractor.

Short of a Select-0-Speed powershift, the 5 speed with its 3rd - Reverse shuttle was really good on a loader. That said, I would have preferred that Granddad had kept his loader on his 871 SOS, rather than putting it on the 850.

A four speed of the day surely couldn't beat it for shuttle or PTO work. While I'm not familiar with the later 8 speed, I can't see how it could shuttle any better than the old "monkey shift" (that's what I called the five speed).

The only con I can think of on the 5 is that it had/has the slowest road gear of any of the transmissions used behind the 4 cylinder engines. Oh, and it's not a Select-0-Speed. :lol:

ZANE · Jan 21, 2010

The five speed transmission has a weak point design flaw in the third and reverse gears. Before you buy it make sure it doesn't jump out of either of these gears. Hold the brakes hard while full throttle in third gear for a few hundred feet to be sure it stays in gear without you having to hold the gear shift lever. Then find a big hill and let it roll down hill while in third gear to be sure it doesn't jump out of gear while holding back. If it passes these two tessts it's probably OK. At least for a time.
If there is enough hours on the tractor it will eventually have the problem of jumping out of gear.

I did my time in a Ford dealership and fixed many of these transmission for just this problem. Matter of fact I own one that cost me dearly to fix the same problem when I pulled it out of a junk pile.

Zane

Stephen Atkins · Jan 21, 2010

We had several Fords over the years. A 641, an 850 and a later 3cyl.2000. WE never put a loader on the 850.We had the 3rd.gear repaired so it would not slip out of gear. It was a good tractor for us.

Dad got tired of the chucka,chuka of the 641 and traded it for the 3cyl. 2000. It came with the 4x2 tranny,lpto,and barely enuf power to pull 2 14's. It was not a good plow tractor.

Keith In Ga · Jan 22, 2010

A friend of mine has one of those. That was the best operating and driving little tractor I was over on. The gear shift was weird. It has a very strange shift pattern. The gear shift rotates and moves up and down through the shift plate hole. It takes a little getting used to, but once you get it, you'll have no problem with it. I would love to have one exactly like that.

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