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dual remote hydraulic valve options

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Hogleg

01-20-2010 12:21:36
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I have a 1971 2000 LCG 3cyl tractor that lived it's life before me on a golf course and came with a dual remote hydraulic valve. Only one side is operational (DA only) and I now need two. I have a one arm loader that I am wanting to run on a SA port so that I can plumb in other DA stuff on the good port, like a 3point hyd. toplink, etc. Ultradog helped me plumb the DA so that I could use it temporarily for the one arm.
Here is a pic of the valve.



The other side has the plunger rotated 90 degrees and is frozen in place. I tried to move it somewhat but did not force it fearing that I would break it and make the whole valve useless. It looks like it may have never been hooked up because there is only one set of OEM hoses on the unit, and the lever is missing. I am guessing that over the years, the plunger may have vibrated to this position and froze there due to non-use. Some kid doofus probably broke off the lever (see the nub that is broke) and dumped the lever. I have a new lever and pivot.

What are my options? I could try to rebuild it myself, but my track record on success with this sort of thing is pretty low. Is this rebuildable option the best one if I find someone that knows this stuff? Any recommendations on who? Cost?

Could I put a plate underneath it and plumb in a cheapo log splitter valve. This would make it look a bit cluttered, but hey, my wife already said my tractor is ugly so whatever.

I could sell this as-is on ebay and buy an new dual setup (expensive to very expensive).

Also, the existing lever interferes with the position control. I have to put it in draft to use the lever to it's full range. Is this normal?

Any thoughts?

John

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Hogleg

01-22-2010 05:00:24
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 Re: dual remote hydraulic valve options in reply to Scott PA, 01-20-2010 12:21:36  
Hobo, I will take a shot at it. I saw that one of the local farm stores has an aftermarket Ford o-ring collection. Probably 24 plus types in a plastic box. I will check the parts list to see if that may be the easier way to go.

Folks - Any thoughts on how to not have the position control interfere with the handle? Do any of your tractors have this problem?

John



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Hobo,NC

01-21-2010 18:01:14
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 Re: dual remote hydraulic valve options in reply to jdemaris, 01-20-2010 12:21:36  
I spec you are right about the o-rings,,, I have been able to match up all these so called special CNH orings that I have needed,,, it takes some time but once you get all the measurements its not that bad to chifer out,,, or if you have a good bud (like I do) that spent his life machine'n parts for orings it can be figgered out,,, he says the manufacture throws in these square orings to throw ya off,,, the parts are machined the same square are round,,, he also said he has machined parts by the engineers spec know'n that the spec was wrong for the o-ring but he did what he was told to do....
Here is some info,,, I am just get'n into machine some parts that use o-rang,,,,I am not good at it but get'n better at it....

BTW a square oring is not square

http://www.marcorubber.com/oring_guide_old.htm

Something to help figger this out is a Naa lift piston o-ring is a -330

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hurleyjd

01-21-2010 12:26:59
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 Re: dual remote hydraulic valve options in reply to Hogleg, 01-20-2010 12:21:36  
Go to New Holland website and look up your valve assembly. It does show some o-rings. Looks like you can remove a cap on the front of the housing, and remove everthing in front of the plunger and drive it out. A good polishing of the plunger might fix it. They had to get the plunger in there at the time of mfg. TSC has not been furnishing this valve body for very long. I think it is the original Ford unit.

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Hogleg

01-20-2010 13:57:19
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 Re: dual remote hydraulic valve options in reply to C.T.inVa., 01-20-2010 12:21:36  
Dean,

I called the TISCO corp help(less) line a while ago and they said that no kit was available and it was not rebuildable, buy a new one (thanks but no thanks).

I was thinking that it probably has industry standard orings that I should be able to source locally. I will try a TISCO dealer to see what they say.
Thanks for the reply,

John



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Hogleg

01-20-2010 13:49:37
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 Re: dual remote hydraulic valve options in reply to 3000OH, 01-20-2010 12:21:36  
Brian
I got the lever from CHN for around $40 bucks. I now see that it is offered on the aftermarket also for around $28. Should have tried that.
How hard is it to remove the spool and replace the orings?
John



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Brian in MA

01-20-2010 13:15:03
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 Re: dual remote hydraulic valve options in reply to Hogleg, 01-20-2010 12:21:36  
I would fix it. That I believe is stainless steel with orings, so I would apply a little more pressure and see if you can break it loose. I would try to rotate it first as that is the easiest motion to break free. Where did you get the new lever from? I have the same valve on my 5600 and one of the levers is broken and I could use a replacement. You can also add the plate beneath it and use a power beyond valve with that plate. Honestly, that might give you the easiest loader operation if you buy a dual spool, power beyond valve and mount it in a convenient location to run the loader and plumb it to the plate beneath this valve.

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Dean

01-20-2010 13:01:51
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 Re: dual remote hydraulic valve options in reply to Hogleg, 01-20-2010 12:21:36  
John:

Your valve is a TISCO supplied valve. It is rebuildable and parts should be available from any TISCO dealer, as the valve is still available.

Dean



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