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Doug MI

08-26-2006 07:32:45




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I need some opinions of the quality of parts available for my tractor from suppliers like Yesterday's Tractor, SSB, and Tisco products. I'm perfoming an engine O/H (bought the tractor locked up) and will also rebuild the peripherals (carb, P/S pump, etc.) Kind of a tough question to ask on YT's website, but gotta ask.
Are these parts eequivalent to OE parts in your experience? Also, many suppliers list parts by Ford #s - what's your experience, are these old Ford parts or just using the #s to jive with part manuals?
Thanks for your feedback!
Doug

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jml755

08-27-2006 06:44:56




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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 parts in reply to Doug MI, 08-26-2006 07:32:45  
Doug,
Just curious. What size engine are you rebuilding and what do you figure it will cost when you're done (not counting your time)? Where in MI are you located?



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Doug MI

09-09-2006 08:36:52




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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 parts in reply to jml755, 08-27-2006 06:44:56  
How much will it cost??....

My initial budget was $2000, but this factored in a few non-engine items. Needed a used rod and then some front gears due to rust (this tractor must have sat for a LONG time). Not counting my time, we"re still on budget and this is not a "rebuild", but a "remanufacture". All wearable parts are either being remachined or replaced, and minor externals the same - it"s a whole lot easier now.
I"m planning $300 for cosmetics (paint and decals) once the tractor is "reassembled" - keep in mind this means all trim/tin off so I can prep and paint the main components. Then we"ll pretty up all the trim and reinstall.
FYI- I"m in South Lyon MI - N/W of Detroit...

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Doug MI

08-26-2006 14:48:02




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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 parts in reply to Doug MI, 08-26-2006 07:32:45  
Rusty & Al
Thanks for the comments. The block has been at the machine shop for about a week and is getting sleeves, crank turned, rods remanufactured - due back soon...
I"ve never had a problem with A/M automobile mechanical parts from reputable sources, but some of the "discount parts" have been a problem. Just want to make sure I have a good feeling for this tractor stuff!
BTW - had to pick-up a few seals at the FNH dealer and posed the same question to him. WOW, you"d think only an OEM could make a piston the way this guy went on about a piston failure and who"ll back up the part! My comment was that "I" would have to back it up because I"ll assemble it but that I never had a "piston failure" even on race motors. He tried to sell his parts, which I guess if money were no object would be fine, but we"re on a realistic budget here. Also, OEMs buy their pistons from the supply base and guess what - they sell pistons to others too!
Thanks again

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RustyAL

08-26-2006 13:54:14




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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 parts in reply to Doug MI, 08-26-2006 07:32:45  
The parts sold on yesterday's tractor are going to be better than original. And just as good as OEM replacment parts. The place I like to spend the money at is the machine shop. Like the previous post stated. Have your block sleeved if it does not have them. I see tractors that people spend the money on new parts and then do not turn the crank. Or do not have the rod bushings replaced and honed. It is a great feeling when you put an engine together and everything is just right. On the other hand. You put one together and it has a tight spot when you turn the crank by hand. Or you wondering is it a little hard to turn. Anyway, I will stop preaching. Good luck.

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Gary Mckenzie

08-26-2006 08:30:06




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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 parts in reply to Doug MI, 08-26-2006 07:32:45  
I have used parts from almost all of the avaible suppliers over the last 10 years or so, and I haven't experienced any quality issues with any of them. These days I have to pay more attention to the quality of the machine work done by outside shops than the parts. There aren't many shops left in my area that can grind cranks, bore cylinders, etc, and the ones that do will usually mess up and charge an arm and leg to boot! Most suppliers use the oem part #'s as a reference, not to indicate that the parts are oem. Also, on your engine the cylinders can be bore and oversize pistons fitted, or they can be bored and sleeved back to standard. I have done them both ways, but prefer to sleeve them back to standard to avoid any risk of porosity in the cylinder wall causing coolant leaks. I hope this helps!

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Gary Schafer

08-26-2006 18:17:57




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 Re: 1970 Ford 4000 parts in reply to Gary Mckenzie, 08-26-2006 08:30:06  
On the gas engine putting in sleeves is a must as only standard size pistons are available now.

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Gary



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