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Ford 850 vs. 851

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cg

05-24-2000 19:18:36
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Is there a difference between a Ford 850 and a Ford 851?




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Jim.UT

05-24-2000 19:51:35
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 Re: Ford 850 vs. 851 in reply to cg, 05-24-2000 19:18:36  
A little. More differences show up the closer you look. You're more likely to get power steering on the 851. The grille is different and so is the paint scheme (big deal). Basically they have the same engine and trans. I notice that the battery location is a little different...it shades to the left side in the 801 series and to the right side on the 800 series. I noticed this when I found a few 801s with the serial numbers eaten away by leaking battery acid. Also, I believe the introduction of diesel engine as an option came along with the 801. Here's a site that may tell you more of what you want to know. I have an 850.

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cg

05-25-2000 02:53:42
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 Re: Re: Ford 850 vs. 851 in reply to Jim.UT, 05-24-2000 19:51:35  
Hows is your 850 working out for you? is the 850 a Powermater model, and did it come with a lot of fancy decals and crap like that...the one i saw was a basic Plane Jane 850; but looked like a decent tractor for it's size. Do you like the PTO on it? re I assume it's transmission driven?? or non-live? or am I saying the same thing?

and was the 851 produced after the 850? i'll check out the site. thanks.

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Jim.UT

05-25-2000 10:27:02
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 Re: Re: Re: Ford 850 vs. 851 in reply to cg, 05-25-2000 02:53:42  
If you've check Dan's site you already know the 851 followed the 850 by a couple of years (or 3). My 850 is plainer than plain. I named it "Lumpy" if that gives you any indication of it's appearance. Whatever decals it had got painted over in one of its previous lives. Works good. I like it. It has a transmission pto. To get "live" pto you need to look for an 860 or 861. The 6 in the middle of the model number calls out live pto. Ford achieved the live pto with use of a 2 stage clutch which some say is more difficult and costly to repair, but I still wish I had looked harder to find one. I paid $2500 for my 850 and it's been worth it. Parts have not been a problem. It has an axle leak where the trumpet bolts to the pumpkin so I have a project to do soon. When Ford moved from the 600/800 series to the 601/801 they called the 601 "Workmaster" and the 801 "Powermaster". Good luck.

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cg

05-25-2000 16:56:41
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 850 vs. 851 in reply to Jim.UT, 05-25-2000 10:27:02  
Lumpy huh? I think that's a good name for the 850. Plainer than Jane may be another. Maybe I'll paint flames on it, or lightning bolts; or better yet, the slant eyes and gnarled mouth of the old WWII Curtis P-40. But I like Lumpy. I named my dog Whimpy, maybe I'll name the tractor "Lumpy Too".



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Jim.UT

05-25-2000 19:03:42
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 850 vs. 851 in reply to cg, 05-25-2000 16:56:41  
I'm not against flames or the P40 look. I ran into a fella who had two gorgeous tractors parked on his front lawn with for sale signs on them. One was a Farmall A and the other was a Case VA. Both painted and with all the correct decals, etc. He was asking $1200 each. Never have $ when you need it. Got to talking to him and he showed me the first tractor he ever had. A friend had given him a beater Ferguson TO 20 that was missing the hood, grille, etc. So he made a hood out of a 55 gal drum cut in half lengthwise and bent to fit. For a grille he used one off a Model A Ford car. Painted it black with red scallops and purple wheels. Looks wild. Says he just uses it for the garden. Probably never sell it.

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lorne hood

12-27-2001 15:30:14
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 850 vs. 851 in reply to Jim.UT, 05-25-2000 19:03:42  
you 800 and 850 guys. do you have any thought on parts for the rear end I need ring,and pinoin gears. or a none running tractor for parts.

do you know what models may cross with my 850?



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Don M

05-25-2000 04:47:22
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 Re: Re: Re: Ford 850 vs. 851 in reply to cg, 05-25-2000 02:53:42  
I have an 850 with a loader and backhoe on it. It has been in the family since the early 60s and has been a real workhorse with very few problems. My father in law built cross country horse fences, moved and cleared land with ease. We continue to use it to clear property. It is easy to work on and the parts are easy to obtain even the prices seem reasonable!



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cg

05-25-2000 09:10:12
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 850 vs. 851 in reply to Don M, 05-25-2000 04:47:22  
steering ok on it? with all of the weight, does the backhoe seem to counter balance it enough...or have you added PS to it. glad to hear it's a good tractor as you described. sounds like a keeper...does it seem to take to a certain brand of spark pluge over other brands? I was told that some brands tend to wear out faster than others on the 850, or don't seem to do their job as other brands...but I don't remember the details of the discussion...just that the owner was saying he had better luck with some brands and not others.

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Don M

05-25-2000 13:10:04
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 850 vs. 851 in reply to cg, 05-25-2000 09:10:12  
It does not have power steering but the combination of loader and backhoe with CaCl in the tires seems just right for balance. It does seem to "plow" with the front wheels when turning in mud due to the weight but this has not presented any problem. I have not noted any unusual spark plug problems but we have not had it long enough to have changed the plugs. We had an over heating problem but with a new fan and water pump it runs cool and smooth!

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