TE20 STIFFENING RODS

john[mo] · Jul 28, 2011

anybody have any of the TE20 stiffening rods they would like to sell?

Jeff-oh · Jul 28, 2011

Please help clairify what your needing? Are you referring to the rods along the bottom of the engine?

Michael QLD OZ · Jul 29, 2011

Or do you mean the anti sway bars that reduce the latteral movement of implements on the 3 point hitch?

john[mo] · Jul 29, 2011

"](quoted from post at 13:41:29 07/28/11) anybody have any of the TE20 stiffening rods they would like to sell?

the rods running from the front axle bracket to the bellhousing because of the aluminum transmission case. without these rods the transmission case is vulnerable to cracking or breaking.

John (UK) · Jul 29, 2011

The two rods along the bottom of the oil pan were not so much to stop the Transmission Housing being damaged, they were there to prevent damage to the Engine Block as there was no support at the bottom unlike the TEA's with the Standard Engine. The Continental Z120 engine did not go all the way to the bottom of the transmission case, it was very shallow and the Oil Pan gave no support or strength. Bigger Continental engines had a different mounting on the back to attach to the Transmission. The strength of the Aluminium transmission Housing was never in doubt as they did use a loader that pivoted on the Rear Axle and the lift rams were attached on a mounting on to the footrests, so it was heavily loaded...John

john[mo] · Jul 29, 2011

ok thanks for the correction but i still need them. also i thought fergie used a heavier cast oil pan on the te20 to also help with strength.

Dan S (NY) · Jul 29, 2011

John, why did they not continue to use the support rods on the TO20s that had the same Z120 engine as the early TE20s? The Z134s in the TO35s, MF50s with the cast iron pan that attached at the bell housing seems to give much better support. I wonder if not as many Z120, Z129s would have cracks between the cylinders if they where better supported at the bottom?

Dan

John UK · Jul 30, 2011

The factories in the UK and the USA each had their own ideas, while the UK controlled it all to some extent, Detroit made some changes and this was one of them. Maybe it was because the US market did not use loaders on the tractors like we did in the UK and Coventry always seemed to "over engineer" the tractors just to prevent any failures. Just looking at the depth of the Block would make you think "is it strong enough", obviously it wasn't and the two struts were really necessary. I think that you have hit upon something that may not have been considered before about the cracking of some of these Blocks and you are correct in what you say. It was always thought that overheating was the cause of all the cracked Blocks on the Z120 but now we have something else that we should consider as well, although it is a bit late to do much about it.Good question though Dan..John

John (UK) · Jul 30, 2011

The TE20 always uses the struts, the TO20 doesn't. I have spent the last couple of hours trying to find out more about all this, but only the parts list shows struts for the TE20 and shows that there were none used on the TO20. Dan raised a good point about all this if you look lower down the thread...John

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