Got tractor running, many questions

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Got the to20 back together and running, she's making a lot of noise,not sure what it is. It's not a knock but more like a rattle, Had a time getting the pan screen and filter in place, there's nothing to hold the pan in place while you insert filter so i slipped an o ring on to hold it in place, didn't have a spring either but the screen and filter were right at the bottom of opening. I used the napa filter and it looked longer than the 1 that came out. I have 30 lbs. oil pressure and it doesn't seem to vary with more rpm. Took valve cover off and had condensation after less than 15 minutes of running,oil looks fine but there's none at the top end. I took the rocker assembly completely apart prior to start up and cleaned all the gunk out but did'nt use new cork in the ends, where do you get that at. I held my fingers over the ends of rocker shaft while it was running to see if it would oil. The second pedestal from the rear had a pin to hold it in place and I'm sure it's ok.I'm guessing with that pin in place the little holes in the shaft are pointing right.Block was hot tanked so the rear hole should not be clogged, cleaned the center shaft to oil filter and made sure the little hole in it was clean. Pressure before rebuild was 20lbs, and top was oiling. I set the flywheel timing marks to 7 degrees, removed the dist. cap and positioned #1 where it was pointing, then after it would'nt crank had to move wires 180, does that mean my flywheel is 180 out?
 
Longer filter doos not hurt.
Flywheel...You need to check it with a timing light to be sure of anything.
Noise location is done with a length of hose of 3/8 to 5/8 inch diameter. Hold one end to the suspected area of noise origin and the other end to your ear. The louder the noise gets in your ear, the closer you are to the problem.

Also works on chebys to find exhaust leaks...
Been there, done that!
 
Thanks Bruce, gonna give that tin can on a string a try, bet it's something with the oil filter surround, is that round pan supposed to hit on the top of the other tube and leave about an inch and a half space at top of the center tube?
 
There should be a spring on that center tube above the canister to hold the canister down. If you have no spring installed that could be your rattle. As for no oil to the top end, I would take off the rocker assembly and then crank the engine to make 100% sure oil is coming up the oil hole that feeds the rocker arms. You should get some flow even at cranking speeds.

Dan
 
I took off the rockers and blew air down thru oil port and guess what, oil and air came out between rear of head and block, block was decked and head was straight edged by MS. Gotta pull head! 75lbs on torque
 
You could pull the pan and put the oil cap/spring for the filter on correctly. (Dan S (NY) Next fill up use 15/40 Delo heavy duty diesel grade oil and keep your cam happy.
heavy duty leaves a film behind so the next start up won't be bone dry on the cam.
Glad to see at least you had it running!
 
The flywheel can"t be out. It"s indexed to the crankshaft by an offset bolt hole. It only goes on one way.
Remember when you time the engine, since it is a 4 stroke, it fires every other revolotion. You probably had it on the exhaust stroke when you timed it so moving it 180 put it on the compression stroke. Look in the archives. I have given instructions on easy static timing of any spark ignition engine hundred of times.

The rattle you hear maybe caused by the valves needing adjustment.

You have excellent oil pressure and your gauge should stay constant with rpm as the relief valve controls that until you get a lot of main bearing wear.

The oil for the rockers comes up the block through a drilled passage from the rear cam bearing. Run a wire down the hole because there maybe something stuck in the oil passage.
 
The wife just wanted to know since i just explained my next misery, I'm guessing at least a head mill, then I can't see but 3 scenerios where the noise problem will be solved an that is with top in oil problem, that leaves either the oil can or something to do with the thrust washer, for instance what if the thrust washers pulled the crank so far forward that the rear main bearing hole is partially covered. I'm hoping each and everyone that has chimed in to help realizes I already know everything and all these questions are just to humor me, well not really but at least i know Bruce has a sense of humor, and Jerry m/t your right up there with John U/K and Dan your the newbe to me so I had already checked with the air but you were right on! Just played 18 holes with many birdies, I mean beers. It was 68 today in Jawja, eat your hearts out.
 
No oil to the rocker shaft reminds me of a Peugot 505 STI I once worked on. Seems the back of the valve train was missing a bolt in the valve train. Made a nasty squeaking noise.
I had the priveledge of reassembly of an engine rebuild after the mech who took it apart, quit!
First poogot I ever worked on. I found a few nasty things out about that particular poogot.
There have been a few jems along the way...

Just saw the title to the thread...
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The wife stopped counting at 5,000 for her Fergy.
I stopped counting at $7500.
I have now totally lost count. It has becomne a very large toy!
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FEL,
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Eat your heart out.
 
I've thought about giving up on continental and putting in a ford 300 straight 6,I wonder if anyone has experience with that?
 
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Send me a direct email and I might have that info for you. Or at least send you in the right direction. Of course, then again, you could go North, left or even south but I don't believe you desire to do that so it looks like I should send you in the right direction. . .
 
There were kits for installing flathead six and eight cyl. ford engines in old 9N, 2N , and 8N fords .
A 5 bolt bellhousing small block ford is a fairly easy swap . 221 ci , 260 ci , and 289 ci up to 1965 ? 1966 ? . Beyond that , they were 6 bolt bell housings .
This post will probably get me banned from this site .
I have a 1952 TO30 . It is noisy , and oil pressure will scare you , but it has done a good job for me for 4 years . Some day the noises will get the best of me , and I will fix it .
 
I may have posted this under something new but the culprit was me putting in rear main with oil hole wrong,shoulda double checked each one.
 

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