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'58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question

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flyboeing757

11-14-2009 21:12:32
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anyone have a good idea what filters seem to work best for a to 35? sounds like most are napa and wix. my filter style is the original, not the aftermarket spin on. also --- what type of oil would anyone recomend for year round use(light use scraping snow in winter and hauling a small hay rack rest of year.) also what quantity of oil should it take(continental z-129 motor).....

thanks

brian

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magfarm

12-02-2009 13:19:20
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to Irv ( Ia), 11-14-2009 21:12:32  
Brian, as far as engine oil goes, I use a synthetic SAE 30 year around in my TO-30 with excellent results, and we can get some cold winters in Idaho.

http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1531609&page=storefront/acd

[quote:7a2b102e27]When I was in western Canada this summer- in the auto parts places, I saw alot of '0w20' and '0w30', I wanted to ask, but never did, so will I ask now.... what the heck does a '0' weight oil consist of? More than nothin' I presume...[/quote:7a2b102e27]

Tony, Jerry is correct. The first number (the "5" in 5w30) is only a relative number which basically indicates how easily it will allow an engine to "turn over" at low temperatures. It is NOT a viscosity reference. In other words, a 10w30 is NOT a 10 weight oil in cold temperatures and a 30 weight oil in warm temperatures. A 10W oil has better cold flow properties than a 15W oil, 5W better than 10W and 0W has the best cold flow properties. Think of the "W" as a "winter" classification instead of a "weight" classification.

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flyboeing757

11-15-2009 21:09:20
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to flyboeing757, 11-14-2009 21:12:32  
hey jerry- thanks for the info.... i live in the midwest and don't use the tractor much in super cold conditions.... also it's inside and parially climate controlled so the starting temp is usually never below 25F at startup......as for the 757 designation this is what i use for all my other stuff and it's easy to remember. i fly the 717 now (bit smaller, slower, less power but still boeing). as for the motor it is a z134, i don't know where i pulled the 129 number from. anyway thanks

brian

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Jerry/MT

11-15-2009 20:55:23
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to flyboeing757, 11-14-2009 21:12:32  
Having worked on the propulsion system of the 757 while the airplane was in preliminary design all the way through it"s certification and entry into service, I feel somewhat qualified to answer your question(grin). The oil you select is dependent on the ambient conditions you operate in. I live in Western Montana and we have some cold temps in the winter. I tried 15W40 oil because that"s what my diesel tractor uses and I wanted to try and use one grade of oil in all my tractors. It made my TO-30 a bit harder to start when it got below 20F so I switched to 10W40 and it works fine as a year round oil in that tractor. If you live in a moderate climate where the ambients seldon get below say 20F for long periods of time then maybe you can use 30W, or even 15W40. Certainly 10W30 and 10W40 will work in almost all but severe cold conditions where you might have to switch to 5W30 in winter.
Use 30W in the air cleaner cup.

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Tony in Mass.

11-16-2009 15:30:30
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to Jerry/MT, 11-15-2009 20:55:23  
When I was in western Canada this summer- in the auto parts places, I saw alot of '0w20' and '0w30', I wanted to ask, but never did, so will I ask now.... what the heck does a '0' weight oil consist of? More than nothin' I presume...



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Jerry/MT

11-16-2009 16:13:45
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to Tony in Mass., 11-16-2009 15:30:30  
If you google on SAE oil weight or soemthing like that you can find the vicosity range versus SAE grade. 0W is less viscous than than 5W.



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Jerry/MT

11-15-2009 20:57:03
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to Jerry/MT, 11-15-2009 20:55:23  
P.S. If youhave a Z129 engine, you have a TO-30 not a TO-35! The To-35 used the Z134 engine.



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Dick New York

11-15-2009 16:12:25
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to flyboeing757, 11-14-2009 21:12:32  
Over the past few years , a compound that use to be in oil has been removed because it damages catalytic converters . Your oils that are rated for diesel engines still have it . This compound was helpful in reducing camshaft and lifter wear . Most new automotive engines now have roller cams and lifters so this is not a problem . Older motors have old style cams and lifters . Shell Rotella T is a diesel rated oil that still has the full dose of this compound and is available at Wally World , Tractor supply and many other places .It can be had in 15 / 40 and some other grades .
I just changed the oil in my TO30 motor and trans . 7 + gallons of oil . And now my 3 point hitch is working .

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Dan S (NY)

11-15-2009 13:01:07
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to flyboeing757, 11-14-2009 21:12:32  
I use 15w40 oil and a napa 1010 filter in my MF50 which has the same engine as a TO35. The 35 should have a Z134 continental, not a Z129. The Z129 was used in the TO30.

Dan



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phil(va)

11-15-2009 11:08:49
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to flyboeing757, 11-14-2009 21:12:32  
The NAPA number is 1010 I believe. I don't have my manual handy, but as I recall it takes about 5 1/2 quarts. I know it is more than 4. I use Rotella 15-40, but it's more a preference thing than anything else.



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Fred Hart

11-15-2009 06:04:01
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to flyboeing757, 11-14-2009 21:12:32  
I use a napa gold filter or wix in my TO-35.

10w30 oil valvoline

be sure the spring and washer are in your oil filter canister. If not check out forum to see where they go.

If no spring and washer the oil will bypass your filter, might as well not have one.



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Phil Fenner

11-14-2009 22:49:37
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 Re: '58 to-35 oil filter and oil weight question in reply to flyboeing757, 11-14-2009 21:12:32  
Brian,

Any quality filter is fine and the one's you mentioned are good. For oil, most people are now going to a good multigrade oil and if you are in the PNW by your handle, then 10/30 is good or similar. The original oil called for was 30w and that will work too.

Phil(WA)



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