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Starting with a hand crank

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Frank Biscardi

01-23-2001 18:51:43




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I noticed my tractor has a place to attach a hand crank. I have heard vague stories from older people about how this was a good way to break an arm. Out of curiosity, does anyone out there still do this?

Frank




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Joe Ferguson

01-24-2001 14:57:11




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 Re: starting with a hand crank in reply to Frank Biscardi, 01-23-2001 18:51:43  
Litle more +

To crank safely (if ignition timing is OK)

Slowly turn the engine with crank
Stop when you feel resistance this is the beginning of the compression cycle of one of the cylinders pull the crank just enough to disengage from pulley notches put the crank handle down 90 degrees compared to floor reengage in the notches
and pull the handle firmly upwards keeping your thumb around the handle. This wil permit you to
have strongest pull on crank and if however the
engine kicks the handle will escape from your
hand downwards dont forget to put your thumb
around the handle if the handle escapes you will
be safe.

Never cranck horizontally or downward by pushing action..if engine kicks you know the rest.....

The cranking travel should be pulling upwards aprox from 7 o'clock to 10 o'clock compared to a watch.

After each try.. replace the crank same as above
ad retry one compression cycle at a time
on a 4 cylinder engine there is 2 compression
cycle by turn.

It seems to be a long romance to explain safe crancking but seems to me realy important..bigger is the engine bigger is the danger.

Good "safe" tractoring"


Joe Ferguson

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Terry

01-24-2001 08:43:25




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 Re: starting with a hand crank in reply to Frank Biscardi, 01-23-2001 18:51:43  
I have started my TO-20 many times with the hand crank before I got my generator fixed. Saved me lots of trips back to the shop for a battery and jumper cables. It starts really easy after it is warmed up but nearly impossible when cold. The pulley on the front of the tactor is machined in a way to throw the crank out of it when the tractor starts. I have never been hurt with one but it is possible. Ain't old tractors fun.

Terry

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Joe Ferguson

01-24-2001 09:43:23




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 Re: Re: starting with a hand crank in reply to Terry, 01-24-2001 08:43:25  
Just little more...

There is normally no danger when the ignition
timing is well adjusted. If the timing is adjusted too early an ignition will occur before TDC and will kick the engine backward this will keep the hand crank engaged in the pulley notches and you will receive the crank handle right in
the kisser.

Good luck

Joe Ferguson



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Terry

01-24-2001 13:41:56




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 Re: Re: Re: starting with a hand crank in reply to Joe Ferguson, 01-24-2001 09:43:23  
You are right Joe, I didn't even think about the engine kicking backwards. Sure glad I read it here instead of learning by experience.

Terry



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Joe Ferguson

01-24-2001 03:32:30




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 Re: starting with a hand crank in reply to Frank Biscardi, 01-23-2001 18:51:43  
Hi Frank

It is a good way to start engine when battery is down. But...the ignition system needs electric
power to operate. If battery is too weak to start
but still alive you can start it by crank.
But...if there is no battery or battery is completely discharged forget it it wll never
start. The older tractors which used magnetos
can run without battery just like your lawn mower
or chain saw.

DANGER: If you start the tractor with crank be sure that the transmission is in neutral position
many users were injured or killed when their tractor starts in gear and.....

If you can have somebody to sit on tractor put
the transmission in neutral and press the clutch
pedal it will be safe and it will crank easyly
because this will avoid turning transmission front end especially in cold climate.

Hope this help

Happy "safe" tractoring

Joe Ferguson

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rod

01-23-2001 22:38:39




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 Re: starting with a hand crank in reply to Frank Biscardi, 01-23-2001 18:51:43  
I have started my TEA 20 with the hand crank several times until I got another starter it starts very easy usually about 3 turns you have to make sure your thumb is out of the way. Even on a real cold day it started right up. regards
rod



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Mike U

01-24-2001 11:24:46




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 Re: Re: starting with a hand crank in reply to rod, 01-23-2001 22:38:39  
Starter has gone on my TE20, tractor starts so easily with the hand crank I haven't bothered getting another starter. However Iam always weary so starting after ignition timming has been adjusted. Providing your thumbs grip the crank properly there is little injury risk.



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Mike U

01-24-2001 11:24:00




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 Re: Re: starting with a hand crank in reply to rod, 01-23-2001 22:38:39  
Starter has gone on my TE20, tractor starts so easily with the hand crank I haven't bothered getting another starter. However Iam always weary so starting after ignition timming has been adjusted. Providing your thumbs grip the crank properly there is little injury risk.



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Mike U

01-24-2001 11:23:25




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 Re: Re: starting with a hand crank in reply to rod, 01-23-2001 22:38:39  
Starter has gone on my TE20, tractor starts so easily with the hand crank I haven't bothered getting another starter. However Iam always weary so starting after ignition timming has been adjusted. Providing your thumbs grip the crank properly there is little injury risk.



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