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Difference between TEA-20 and TE-20?

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BuddyP

04-17-2007 08:04:31




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What's the differences? Thanks!




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Jeff-oh

04-17-2007 12:58:24




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 Re: Difference between TEA-20 and TE-20? in reply to BuddyP, 04-17-2007 08:04:31  
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No offence to those who have posted below, however, most provide erroneous or not quite accurate information.

When Ferguson realized that Ford had no intention of opening a 9N line in Great Britton, and thus putting Ferguson at the lead, Harry investigated looking into starting his own line of tractors, This also coincided with the break-up of the hand shake agreement.

With the ending of the Ford supplied tractors to Harry's US distributor network he need a supply of tractors, He contracted with Sir John Black of the standard motor company to build these tractors. Thus, the TE-20 was born. The initial TE-20 had Continental Z120 engines in them. This is because the Standard Motor Company's "Standard Motor" was not ready. The TE-20's were manufactured for the USA market and were shipped to the States. The TE-20 with the continental Z120 engine was built up until SN 48,000. During the final production period TEA-20's and TE-20's were built side by side.

The TEA-20 is the exact same tractor as the TE-20 with the exception that the motor on the TEA-20 is a Standard motor from the standard motor company. Both were built on the same Banner Lane assembly line in Coventry England.

The TE-20 version ended as the TO-20 line started up in Detroit, MI USA. Due to tariffs, taxes etc. The TO-20 supplied the USA market, while the TEA-20 line supplied the British Commonwealth market (i.e. Canada) and the rest of the world.

TE is short of Tractor England
TO is short for Tractor Overseas... i.e. USA Now market condition and consumer demand put pressures on Ferguson to provide a large variety of variants on the same basic tractor design. Thus was born the letter series. TEA= Gasoline Utility Tractor
TEB-20 Narrow w/Continental 1946-48
TEC-20 Narrow w/Standard 1948-56
TED-20 STD V.O vaporized oil 1949-56
TEE-20 STD V.O Narrow 1946-56
TEF-20 STD Diesel 1951-56
TEH-20 STD Zero octane engine 1950-56
TEJ-20 STD Zero Octane Narrow 1950-65
TEK-20 STD Petrol Vineyard 1952-56
TEL-20 STD V.O. Vineyard 1952-56
TEM-20 STD Zero Octane Vineyard 1952-56
TEP-20 STD Petrol Industrial 1952-56
TER-20 STD V.O. Industrial 1952-56
TES-20 STD Lamp Oil Industrial 1952-56
TET-20 STD Diesel Industrial 1952-56

I hope this helps. the attached picture is of the continental and standard motors.

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Boyde from Brampton

04-17-2007 08:58:14




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 Cracked Blocks in reply to BuddyP, 04-17-2007 08:04:31  
I have read a few forumn messages about the Continential Engine being easily cracked.
Does anybody know if the same applies to the Standard engine?

Boyde



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John(UK)

04-19-2007 08:25:53




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 Re: Cracked Blocks in reply to Boyde from Brampton, 04-17-2007 08:58:14  
Heat cracking is not a problem with the Standard Motors engine, normally it will only crack if it freezes and then it is just at the back of the carburettor around the block drain tap area.



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Bob (Aust)

04-18-2007 15:02:27




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 Re: Cracked Blocks in reply to Boyde from Brampton, 04-17-2007 08:58:14  
"I have read a few forumn messages about the Continential Engine being easily cracked. Does anybody know if the same applies to the Standard engine?"

I have a TEA20. To my knowledge, cracking is not a problem with the TEA20.

I suspect cracking in the Continental engine may, in part, be a result of incorrect engine heat management. Whilst a totally different engine in every way, Continental aircraft engines are renown for cylinder cracking if warm up or cool down is not correctly managed, the engine is subject to shock cooling or operated too lean.

I suspect that keeping the radiator clean (inside and out), idling the engine down in freezing conditions and not expecting a Little Gray Fergy to pull like a D9, must contribute to increased engine life.

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steveormary

04-18-2007 21:40:03




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 Re: Cracked Blocks in reply to Bob (Aust), 04-18-2007 15:02:27  
We bought new a TE20 and later a TO30. We had the TO30 untill I retired in 2003. We never cracked the block in either tractor. We took care of our fergies and never run them at wot. Most of the time we run at about 1800 engine rpm. some less on a light load.

steveormary



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Ken (NB)

04-17-2007 08:23:11




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 Re: Difference between TEA-20 and TE-20? in reply to BuddyP, 04-17-2007 08:04:31  
Just researched this. TE = Tractor, England, A = gas engine (Standard Engine Co.) TO = Tractor, Overseas (?, built in Detroit) with Continental gas engine. TE-20 & TEA-20 could be same tractor.



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Jerry/MT

04-17-2007 09:43:41




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 Re: Difference between TEA-20 and TE-20? in reply to Ken (NB), 04-17-2007 08:23:11  
The TE-20 used the Z120 Continenatl engine where as the TEA-20 used the Standard Engine made in England. Thus they are not the same tractor.



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Fergie Fan

04-17-2007 08:12:35




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 Re: Difference between TEA-20 and TE-20? in reply to BuddyP, 04-17-2007 08:04:31  
TEA -- British Built - Standard Engine
TEO - USA Built - Continental Engine



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Jim W

04-18-2007 07:57:18




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 Re: Difference between TEA-20 and TE-20? in reply to Fergie Fan, 04-17-2007 08:12:35  
No there isn't a TEO-20, but there is a TE20, and there is a TO20. The E means made in England and the O means made overseas (i.e. the USA), so you couldn't have a TEO.
Jim



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