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1952 TO-20 or 30 Ferguson

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D. McMenamy

04-27-2004 09:54:52

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I'm thinking about buying a restored '52 Ferguson for small food plots, orchard, brushhogging, etc...
1. Do they have PTO? If not, can I equip with a PTO after purchase? and approximately how much to equip with PTO?
2. Overall, is a Ferguson !952 - 1953 considered to be a good tractor, dependable if rebuilt correctly?
3. The tractor has been converted to 12v w/ alternator? Is this a normal practice? Advantages or Disadvantages?

Any information is appreciated.

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D. McMenamy

04-27-2004 11:03:06

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 Re: 1952 TO-20 or 30 Ferguson in reply to D. McMenamy, 04-27-2004 09:54:52  
Is the Ferguson a gas or diesel engine? From what I've seen, @ 4-cylinder I'm guessing gas??

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04-27-2004 13:12:07

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 Re: Re: 1952 TO-20 or 30 Ferguson in reply to D. McMenamy, 04-27-2004 11:03:06  
TO-20 and T0-30 came with gas engines. TE-20 (England) had a diesel option, as well as the TO-35. Gas is most common in my area. My TO-35, with wheels adjusted fully in, is under 5' wide.

There are several posts below and in the archives describing live PTO. Just try a search at the top of the page. Many basic questions can be answered by simply searching through the archives. Click the link below for an example.

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04-27-2004 10:49:10

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 Re: 1952 TO-20 or 30 Ferguson in reply to D. McMenamy, 04-27-2004 09:54:52  
If it's really a 1952, it will be a TO-30. But if you get the serial number (look for a plate on the dash) you can check on this site to know for sure. Also, a TO-30 will have a continental Z129 engine (look for a plate on the engine somewhere).

These old Fergusons will run strong for a long time. But of course it depends on how well its been taken care of, and how well you take care of it.

Most of these tractor came with PTO, although a TO20 or TO30 will not be "live" PTO. You would need to find a TO35 Deluxe for that.

12V is ok, but I have never seen a need to convert. My 6V TO35 started right up in 0F weather. As long as the cables, battery, generator, and starter are in good shape the 6V system is just as good as 12V. Check to make sure the 12V conversion was done right. Do the lights work?, does the battery charge?, etc.

Good luck!

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Max Denniston

04-27-2004 16:36:32

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 Re: Re: 1952 TO-20 or 30 Ferguson in reply to Justin-PA, 04-27-2004 10:49:10  
I just rebuilt my TO-30. Very easy to rebuild. It runs strong. I have less then $550 in the rebuild. The only thing I didn't put in new was a water pump ($25) and I had the crank re-done which was only $50. Buy the video ($20) and the books before doing it. If you have any mechanical skills it's easy. Just take your time. If the trator has set for a while then you might want to rebuild the hydrulic pistion also. Rings and gaskets run around $30. If you us the trator for bush cutting get a over-run clutch. I've seen what happens when you don't know what your doing with straight pto. Talk to people around you that might have insite on that subject. I won't sell my TO-30, I love the way it starts and handles in tight places. Parts a still easy to get, just watch out who you buy from. I had a Auto dealer try to sell me a pto seal for $50 when a dealer 6 states away only wanted $15 with $2 shipping. The internet has a lot of places to shop. Here is one. I was born and raised on a fram, my dad brought a TO-30 new in 1955 which my bother has and still works it hard. He's going to rebuild for the first time. It still runs great but starting to us a little oil about 2 quart every 8 hrs of straight running. So as you can see it's lasted a long time. Look luck if you buy the TO-30.

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mr chapp

04-27-2004 10:45:12

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 Re: 1952 TO-20 or 30 Ferguson in reply to D. McMenamy, 04-27-2004 09:54:52  
Hi D. 1. Yes, they have pto and it's good, simple and reliable.
2. Excellent choice for the type work you need. 3. 12v conversions are very common, usually done with Delco parts.
4... I thoroughly enjoy my 1950 to20...Good luck, have fun!

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D. McMenamy

04-27-2004 11:00:37

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 Re: Re: 1952 TO-20 or 30 Ferguson in reply to mr chapp, 04-27-2004 10:45:12  
Difference between Live PTO and Non-Live PTO? A gentleman here at work suggested I get a tractor with live PTO preferred.

Any idea how wide the ferguson tractor is? I have a shed, but not sure if the door is wide enough, would be nice to know.

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