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Show me your Dash TEA20

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kaesark

01-01-2018 22:19:44




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While I have the dash off the old girl, keen to know what others have done or not done to their Dash's. Was thinking I will need amp, oil and temp gauges, ignition light and headlight switch. Three gauges is obviously an odd number to try and balance so as to look correct.
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Charles in Aus.

01-03-2018 21:37:34




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  
You would think that in a country as hot as Australia is , or can get that a temperature gauge would have been mandatory . So it makes little sense that our petrol tractors didn't have them . Only TED20s had them fitted from the factory though and only because the temperature of the engine was vital to running on TVO fuel .

The conversion kits that Ferguson sold for petrol to TVO came with a new gauge and thermostat housing because the original TEA didn't have one .
The photo of the TEA [ mislabeled as TED ] I posted before is typical of most , one gauge, one light , one key switch , one blanking plate .

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Tony in Mass.

01-03-2018 15:54:05




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  
I'll tell ya Charles, I would bet EVERY TEA-20 in North America, was intended for sale in Canada, or came to the US thru Canada. The US had Detroit made TO20's and 30's from the get go. I don't think I ever saw a fergie of any model that did not have both oil and heat gauges. They're both rather important for engine life..... I suppose you find out if she's charging or not the next time she doesn't start... that's what PCP and me do all the time!

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Charles in Aus.

01-02-2018 22:58:32




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  
The temperature gauge was available as an option at point of sale Bob , dealers would fit them along with other accessories like lighting kits and tractormeters . Factory issue TEA20 units would have left the production line with the blanking plate in place over the temperature gauge hole . That said your tractor may be a Canadian issue , specially made for export . There are a few instances of this type of country specification , for instance fuel tanks after about 1954 in Australia and other ' Torrid Climate Countries ' ( as described in Ferguson factory literature ) had a flap on the ignition side to deflect spilled fuel away from the ignition components . This was later adopted universally .
No doubt the extremes of Canada's climate would make a temperature gauge very handy .

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Steve@Advance

01-02-2018 17:31:24




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  
Just in case you do decide to cut the dash for gauges...

Be aware, hole saws are known to cut larger than the actual size on the saw.

If you want it to drill on size, clamp a guide piece over the desired location wit a predrilled on size hole, let that hole guide the hole saw.

Or, choose a saw 1/8" smaller than the gauge, finish the hole with a rotary file.



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Charles in Aus.

01-02-2018 11:59:41




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  
As there is an air vent in your panel Kaesark then the tractor is a later post 1951/2 model with 12 volt wiring . All TEA/D 20 tractors came with the hole for the temperature gauge already punched out but only the TED had the gauge fitted at the factory . In the interests of authenticity many owners remove gauges fitted later to TEA tractors and often have difficulty finding the right blanking plate to cover the hole . To fit a gauge to a TEA you will also need a new thermostat housing to accommodate the temperature sensor.

So TEA on oil pressure gauge , TED oil and temperature gauges .
Lights were often retro fitted by owners using their own bits and pieces or a Ferguson kit . The factory kit came with a template for drilling the light switch which was a simple Lucas push/pull one or two position on / off . One position for headlights the other for rear plough light . Use push pull types , toggle switches will turn on and off as your hand brushes them while steering , very annoying . The white knob on the dash of my TED is the light switch , it is not quite in the exact position it should be but is within a half inch or so from the factory specification ,the hole was already there so I used it . The two holes in your tractor's dash are probably for switches also , lights forward , rear , work light and horn were all controlled from this area .
The red light is the charge light , it shows the state of charge from the dynamo as well as acting as an ignition on light . Turn on ignition and the light should glow , at slow idle when insufficient charge is reaching the battery it will also glow , at full charge during high idle or work it will turn off . It will also act as a warning light if the fan belt breaks or there is an electrical fault .

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kaesark

01-02-2018 12:12:07




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to Charles in Aus., 01-02-2018 11:59:41  
Fantastic Charles, your explaining of how that charge light works/functions here I thought it was just a light, explains it's price. When I pulled the dash apart it had. An old push pull knob but it was shagged and so someone had added the flick on/off switch which explains those two small holes on the left of the dash in my pic.
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Benj R

01-02-2018 11:21:53




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  

This is a pic of my 1954 TEA dash. I have had the tractor for about 4 years (Canada). Picture 2 is of a interesting dash I found on the net.

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kaesark

01-02-2018 11:34:43




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to Benj R, 01-02-2018 11:21:53  
Wow that certainly is in ya face (Pic 2), thanks Ben for your pics.
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Johnny R

01-02-2018 08:57:28




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  
My 1954 TEA-2085 has the original oil pressure gauge on the left side of the dash and amperage gauge on the right side of the dash since the tractor was bought new in 1956. Key switch is below dash on left side, has been replaced. Red light is on the right side of dash. No temp gauge on it.



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Ron(Ont)

01-02-2018 08:30:59




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  
The TEA's did not come with a Temp. gauge, just an Oil Pressure gauge and a charge lamp, but the TED's did have a temp gauge.

I have added an Ammeter to mine.



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John Deere D

01-02-2018 21:13:35




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to Ron(Ont), 01-02-2018 08:30:59  
Quote: The TEA's did not come with a Temp. gauge, just an Oil Pressure gauge and a charge lamp, but the TED's did have a temp gauge.

I'm Visiting our Neighbour (USA). I have NO pictures of my daily driver, a 100% original TEA-20 or the THREE TEA-20 parts Tractors with me at this time. All three were made in COVENTRY ENGLAND and all three have the original COOLANT TEMPERTURE GAUGE,OIL GAUGE and a RED IDIOT light that indicates the GENERATOR is indeed charging.

Bob.....North Western Alberta Canada

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Tony in Mass.

01-02-2018 07:08:18




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  
I believe- others will know for certain- UK built TE's didn't have amp meters, they have the red jewel lamp on the lower right- you called it an ignition light? I think there were 2 large holes for temp and oil, 2 small for red jewel and light switch, and the key is below the dash from factory. So many were 'customized' over the last 60 or 70 years... Tom's has the average 'customized' look.

My Canadian market TEA-20-85 is just like Charles'. The one in the bone yard must be a very early model.

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Charles in Aus.

01-02-2018 02:51:04




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  
This is the instrument panel of my 1952, twelve volt TED20 .



A photo of a six volt TED20



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kaesark

01-02-2018 11:30:10




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to Charles in Aus., 01-02-2018 02:51:04  

Hi Charles
As my dash has the air vent then I am thinking i will stick with just the two guages as per your example, can you explain again the red light is that just an indication that the key is turned on and also what about a head lights switch as i will be fitting lights to mine. I have a couple of spare holes to the left of my left hand guage hole so could utilise one of them perhaps for on/off light switch.
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Tom h.

01-02-2018 00:39:22




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-01-2018 22:19:44  

This is one I picked up this fall.
Temp, oil pressure then the ammeter



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kaesark

01-02-2018 00:52:55




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to Tom h., 01-02-2018 00:39:22  
Interesting, I see the ignition key is set in the dash also, most over this way are positioned below the dash next to the bonnet release handles. It's a shame they don't make other gauges with the same white background as the original oil pressure gauge.



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Tom h.

01-02-2018 08:09:15




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-02-2018 00:52:55  
Sorry, mine is a TE20 not the TEA



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Scott D Orbaker

01-02-2018 05:36:53




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 Re: Show me your Dash TEA20 in reply to kaesark, 01-02-2018 00:52:55  
kaesark,

Here is a company the makes gauges with white dial faces: https://www.iequus.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi77QvbC52AIV07fACh3owgLCEAAYASAAEgI18_D_BwE

I know there are others because I have seen ones with ivory backgrounds and a fancier script style of lettering. Try searching for retro or vintage automotive gauges.

Good luck

Scott D. Orbaker



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