Ferguson T20

Hi I've just purchased a ferguson t20. I'm
having trouble identifying the model. Also
the approx age.
I'll post below a pic of engine numbers and
casting number on right hand side rear as
your sat on the tractor
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you should have a plate under the steering wheel with the serial # on it. hard stamped, TE or TO or some such then a hand stamped serial number. That initial number gives you the model and the serial number gives you the year.
 
(quoted from post at 14:32:56 11/25/17) Well it is a TEA20, just don't know if it is the 80 or 85 engine. Is there a plate on the dash?

If it is a 1950 TEA engine. It s an 80 mm if has not been modified.
 
(quoted from post at 15:20:52 11/25/17)
(quoted from post at 14:32:56 11/25/17) Well it is a TEA20, just don't know if it is the 80 or 85 engine. Is there a plate on the dash?

If it is a 1950 TEA engine. It s an 80 mm if has not been modified.

There is another casting date behind the generator. If the water pump is attached to the block, it is an 80 mm. If the water pump is on the head, with a plate covering the old pump spot, it is an 85 mm.
 
You said aluminum transmission and I suspected a TEA. I believe that aluminum is actually magnesium.
Others here with vast more knowledge should be chiming in shortly. . .
 
First of May 1950? or Jan 5th? I forgot. The tag says 'exchange'??? So a replacement engine? With 80mm rather than newer 85mm parts? ... and has 'Triumph' on the tag... wonder when that started? Could this engine been intended for a Triumph car?
BTW, many years ago I was told by a former junk man from Cheshire, all the alloy castings in a fergie were from a yard in Merseyside full of scrapped WW2 aircraft.
 

May 1950 you are right Tony .
The plate is most likely denoting a factory rebuilt engine . The alloy is called 'Electron' and is an amalgam of aluminium and manganese , flammable at high temperatures and easily corroded if water enters the gearbox.
 
(quoted from post at 14:58:19 11/27/17)
The alloy is called 'Electron' and is an amalgam of aluminium and manganese , flammable at high temperatures and easily corroded if water enters the gearbox.

The "Elektron" alloy is a blend of 9+ metals, mostly magnesium and aluminum(9.5%). Magnanese is one of them at about 0.5%. And yes, it is flammable and corrodes easily.
 
Mine is pitted a fair bit so imagine
it's been sat outside at some point do
you know of any way of filling in the
pits to repair it
 

Lots of two part epoxy products are made for this purpose , but they won't strengthen the casting . Pitting is fine up to a point , thinning which happens right at the bottom is far more serious .
Most only realise the trouble is there when the head of a jack or stand punches a hole in it .

Yes Ron, Magnesium , a ' Senior ' moment and if you can recall third form science classes the very reason acetylene torches are a no no near them .
 
IIRC the basic TE wet sleeve engine was also used in Standard Vanguard sedans and Triumph sedans and TR2 - 4 sports cars (Standard Triumph products). The sedans and sports cars were (IIRC) just under 2 litres. Ferguson sleeves were the start to an instant hot-up kit for them.



You could improve the road speed of your TE 20 by fitting a TR sports engine if you wanted to - not sure it would improve anything else.

Triumph Spitfires came out in the early 1960s and had a 4 cylinder engine of about 1200 cc. A related model had an inline 6. The only Triumph V8 I know of was in the Stag of about 1970 - late 1970's and it wasn't a very good engine it seems. This had a 4 cylinder offshoot (some used in SAABs) but doesn't seem to have been made as an industrial version.
 

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