Help me ID the new to me Fergy

Royse

Well-known Member
Tractor followed me home today. I thought it was a TE-20.
TractorData says the final serial number was 48000.
Mine clearly says 48700
It has the Continental Z120 in it I believe, Z12x A600 cast into the
block, the "x" is unreadable. So does that rule out a TEA-20/Standard?
Could be a mutt too I suppose, but I don't know if the TEA serial
number would have said TEA instead of TE on the TEA's.

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I did notice the brakes were different than the TO-20 I had here.
At least the brakes both work well.
I'm fine with it being a mutt, no worries there.
Would be nice to know what parts to order when needed though. :)
Dash looks to be 20, but there is no choke on the left like on the TO.
It is under the right hand side of the steering wheel on the lower dash.

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BTW, what is this bracket for? Mounted where the rear end bolts to the transmission.

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Look under the left brake pedal. I think you will find the remains of what used to be pedal for both rear brakes. Clever engineering on the right brake.
 
does that hefty collar underneath the steering wheel have a grease fitting? yes? could be anti backlash device.
 
I sold my one and only TO-20 nearly 20 years ago after the engine seized but I think the trans cover is/was flat. no bolts.
 
I didn't find anything under the brake pedal Duner.
I did find on the rear brake rods what look likes where brake
rods/pedals may have been cut off. One on each side.

The right brake pedal arm is rectangular instead of round/oval.
Very well could be home made I suppose.

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The TE 20 was built in England and shipped over. It used the Continental engine.
It also used the one-piece steering gear and transmission cover. There should be
braces running from the lower bell housing up to the front of the engine to reduce
over-stress on the upper bell housing screws.
 
No such braces present on this tractor cdmn.
Probably left off after an engine rebuild/swap/clutch replacement?
 
It was mentioned several years ago that they did make the TE available after the introduction of the TEA so dealers could special order the TE even after the TEA was in production. I am assuming this was to use up the Z120 engines they had on hand when the Standard Engine came into production.
 
These photos show the braces I've seen on TE20s in our area. Maybe they were installed by dealers
when thought necessary. I looked at hundreds of web pictures and couldn't find them. Sorry these are the best of my own photos.
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I think it matches the TE20 model. Pretty clever modification. I might change the brakes on my TEA20 the same way. Could never understand the "toe and heel" system.

I forgot to mention that the tractors shipped from England, even with the Z120
engine, came with Lucas electrics including starter, distributer, and generator.
They are apparently interchangeable with the US components, but special bracket has
to be made up for an alternator.
 
Thanks for all the help cdmn!
This one already has a 3 wire Delco "10 SI" alternator setup
that works well. I will end up rewiring it because they used too
small of wires and ran them in a haphazard way that I don't like.

There are other little TLC things to take care of too.
For example, is this where you would put your metal temp gauge line?
Obviously a very easy fix, but really? Why would anyone do that?

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Check out the inline filter addition too. Yes, it WAS touching the
muffler clamp. Rubber hose was melted. That one is already fixed.
Flex hoses everywhere except the top radiator hose.
Minor details really. As I said, a little TLC and it'll be fine.

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cdmn " Could never understand the "toe and heel" system."
On my TO20 I sometimes pull up on the individual brakes with my hands. This works especially well when I have the front end of Fergy pawing the air with a too big load behind,. lean forward to hold steering steady with your chest.
 
Well, it is a TO20 engine, 30's and TEA Standards have a different oil filter that's easy to see. Could be someone just wanted to modernize the brakes. I don't blame him. The dash isn't a 30 or TEA either. We know it is not an Allis Chalmers, because it does not have a cigarette lighter under the art deco dash lamp...
 
I've seen the same ENGINE /FRONT AXEL to Transmission supports on a TE 20 built in England and shipped to Canada. Tractor was located in the town of "Salmon Arm" British Columbia.
 
(reply to post at 21:07:29 08/09/17)
Early one then!
Richard L is the historian on this stuff... all LONG before i was ever born...
The first xxxx thousand TE's- tractor English- had boxed Continental Z120's engines imported to the UK, yeah, then some exported to Canada and back to the US... I guess this was when Henry Ford was bowing out, yet Harry Ferguson was committed to get the UK self sufficient in food production after the war. As time went on, the Detroit plant was in operation making the arsends, and so was the Standard Engine line in the UK. But yah you guys in Canada can run across any ol model... even the French and European ones too. I.... guess... that's a good thing?
 
"the art deco dash lamp"

Pretty sure that's the same lamp that's on my trailer for a license
plate light. If I had to use this for field work at night it would be
replaced. It is way too bright to use in the dark.

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