TEA20 and TE20

Grabatire

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It is my understanding that the TE20 was the European model and the TO20 was the 'overseas' model, but what is the
difference between the TEA20 and the TE20?
 
TO's were made in USA with Continental engines.
TE's were made in UK with Continental engines imported from Chicago USA.
TEA's were made in the UK with UK made Standard engines.
 
I also wondered what the differnce between a TE20 and TEA20 where. Did not think that the UK tes would have used US motors...
 
I guess this was one of those endless post war pinches the poms were in. Harry couldn't find- or yet- at that time- produce, enough engines for the amount of tractors British food producers needed. The horses were worn out or eaten...
Before the war -till Henry's mental decline after the war, Ford plants made all the engines. After a few years, Harry's company started making the 20 petrol, TVO paraffin burners.... and 23C's .... that's when the poms were completely buggered for the long term!!!
But he- and Massey Ferguson- kept buying Continentals into the 1980's I guess? For the US market and anywhere else- like some South American countries- that wanted them? Cause petrol wasn't so expensive as most other countries, but by the mid 70's, writing was on the wall for US farmers to go diesel.... $$$$$ And Perkins was gaining a great reputation- MF had bought it by the early 60's... it was a good move!
On the other hand, Continental Motors in Chicago popped out flawless engines like peanut M&M's. From the 1920's till recently. On the other side of the pond, when the UK 'nationalized' the vehicle industry... MF kept Perkins- but turned Standard Motors division over to the pommie government.... and it powered British Leyland...?? whatevers that didn't need to start?? ... poor bloody poms just never catch a break eh???
 

Hey Tony , are you talking about the same '' flawless continental engines '' that have the cracked blocks I keep reading about ? :)
 
To Richard- an old engine rebuilder, and my forklift mechanic friend- they told me Continental engines were built all over, but the head office was Chicago. So they called Chicago for parts they couldn't get locally. So, I figure... 1950 Muskegeon Ave. Chicago, Illinois...???? I'm just keeping the tradition of sayin' Chicago' alive. I think they made airplane engines somewhere down south... I imagine Massey Harris engines must have been made in a Toronto area plant??? My Cockshutt has an F164
OH! I heard they were making a few sizes again... in South Korea???? The same family??? Or just a 'name'??
To Charles.... we yanks don't mention those cracked blocks without the presence of out attorney.... some old timers say it was Harry who demanded Cont bore the webs too thin, to get more cubic inches from the same block casting. But yeah, if true, if they played along to keep a customer, they both... well us too.... lost in the long run. I have other Continentals that ... don't do that... I hope..
 
What engines did Ford make?? I was told by a very reliable source (John UK)that Continental Motors is not an affiliate of Ford motor company.
 
All the engines in... I ain't no Dorf expert... so Richard better not pick on me... but... 1939 thru 4? 45? 46? Then Henry Ford told Harry F he wanted out of the ag business, so no more 9N's or 2N's etc, the 'Ford - Fergusons' would end as soon as the war ended.... then he went senile (I know the feeling)... England was still rationing food, Europe was still starving, so H Ferguson decided to start producing a whole tractor on his own... I believe Harry approached Continental, their engines powered so many US made military vehicles, the British crews spoke highly of them. So then Z120's in crates were shipped to Banner Lane in UK until the Standard petrol engines were 'perfected' (now Charles will pick on me)... all around this time, Henry Ford died, Henry Ford 2nd- grandson- cause Edsel died even earlier... so just for spite? Henry 2nd continued an agricultural line AND the lawsuit with Harry F- all this at once must have made the late 40's farm magazines as interesting as reading about the war that just ended.... hey Jason is becoming the historian around here.... call him as a witness!!!! And how is John UK doing lately???
 

I don't know what smaller engine Continental might have modified to get the 120. The Massey 22, for
example, had the same bore, but longer stroke. Plenty of time to fix design defects in the block. But maybe it was the overhead valve head that led to problems.

The Standard engine is about 1.0 inch longer, and some of this could have been used to thicken the webs.

The strength depends on not just the metal,but also on how it is aged or cured. Ford and Willys both
built war-time Jeep engines. Ford's cracked. Willys' didn't.
 

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