tea20 front spindle bushes

pcp20us

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Hi Ya

Pulled the front axle apart as the axle spindle is loose in the housing.

The bushes need replacing but the shaft it is also worn, so looking for diy ways to build the shaft up or sleeve the shaft or install larger bushes to remove the slack in the front axle.

Doesn't not have to be show room condition just want to remove the slack in the axle.

Throw me your ideas :shock:
 
I'm sure the problem can be solved with a DIY solution. Unless you have access to a machine shop the job will go faster if you buy a new pin and bushing. Bushings are advertised for about $10 and new pins are about $45 for $60 in new parts you'll be up and running again.

Good luck.
 
It's not really practical to try to fix the spindles. Either run them with some wear or invest in new ones is
about the only choice. I suppose they could be welded up and ground down if you are really good with a
grinder, but odds are they will not be smooth enough for long term use. No practical way to put them in a
lathe to turn the welds that I can think of.

Also the bushings will have to be reamed to fit once they are pressed in the axle.
 
(quoted from post at 12:56:07 04/16/16) so looking for diy ways

I think your previous two answers are pretty good.

All I'll add is what I did in a similar situation. I left the spindles as they were (didn't quite want to buy new yet) but I bought new bushings. The bushings will need reamed to fit, so that gives you a chance to make it a lot better than it was. I had to ream the lower bushing large enough to slide the spindle through, so it had some slop there when I was done. But through trial and error I could ream the top to fit the spindle as it was (more or less). The finished repair was not perfect by any means. It was, however, much better than before I started. It was also really cheap.

This all depends, of course, on how bad your spindles are.

Just an idea.
 
Looks like you got two kinds of answers: for the pivot pin in the middle of the axle and for the two vertical parts the wheel spindles fit in. I presume you are talking about the latter so here is my experience. I tried using steel-filled epoxy to restore the shape of the shaft and it worked for several years but eventually broke up and squeezed into the open space between the bushings. Next, I put a piece of shim stock thick enough to fill the void between the bushing and shaft with some thread lock on the back of it to keep it from moving while I put the shaft back in - this seems to be working.
 
would someone speak to the 'how to' of reaming the spindle bushings? - this is done by hand? by power? - what does the reamer look like and where does one procure one? etc, etc, -
 
This is a reamer:

http://www.regalcuttingtools.com/sites/default/files/images/products/912190032%20PILOTED%20REAMER_0.jpg

A reamer needed for the size of the spindle shaft will be very expensive to buy. You can search around and
borrow one, or take the axles off and take them to a machine shop, or to a shop that does heavy truck
suspension work and have them reamed.
 
HI

Going to run the shafts as they are and install new bushes.

Locite have a product to fill such wear then you machine it down. good if you have a lathe and the tools.

So bushes and plenty of grease! :D
 
This is what I use. Got the idea from Ultradog on the "N" board. Ues 1/2" X 4" length of brass rod , cut a notch in the end and use plumbers sanding strip wrapped around notced end and place the other end in drill. Makes a very effective reamer.
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(quoted from post at 17:52:05 04/16/16) Looks like you got two kinds of answers: for the pivot pin in the middle of the axle and for the two vertical parts the wheel spindles fit in. I presume you are talking about the latter so here is my experience. I tried using steel-filled epoxy to restore the shape of the shaft and it worked for several years but eventually broke up and squeezed into the open space between the bushings. Next, I put a piece of shim stock thick enough to fill the void between the bushing and shaft with some thread lock on the back of it to keep it from moving while I put the shaft back in - this seems to be working.

Cheers Don. this is what i was lookiing for. I am going to replace the bushes and see how it is.

How did you remove the bushes. I am thinking of cutting with Hacksaw blade then peeling out, as the seems to be a lip so cannot drive the bushes thru from the top?

Cheers
 
My lower bushings were worn through so they came out easily. The uppers were intact so I worked from the lower end of the housing with a drift and tapped around the rim until I got about a half inch out then I folded it in with a chisel, drove it some more and folded again, etc. The hacksaw blade might go faster and any scratches would be hidden by the bushing.
 
(quoted from post at 17:39:03 04/18/16) My lower bushings were worn through so they came out easily. The uppers were intact so I worked from the lower end of the housing with a drift and tapped around the rim until I got about a half inch out then I folded it in with a chisel, drove it some more and folded again, etc. The hacksaw blade might go faster and any scratches would be hidden by the bushing.

Did you have to ream the bushes or where they ok after you installed them?
 
Did you have to ream the bushes or where they ok after you installed them?[/quote]

I did have to ream them. I bought a used end mill of the right diameter since I couldn't locate the ream I needed. The mill left some ridges that I sanded out with a brake hone.
 
thanks -

So - the spindle is 1 1/4" - do you use a 1 1/4" reamer? what about clearance? is the reamer oversize?
 
for anyone interested.

Removing the bushes is fun as you can see i mutalated the top one and managed to get the bottom one out in one piece. Hacksaw, Chisel and hammer. The new bushes certainly take some pounding to get in..
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The FERGUSON SERVICE MANUAL has an illustration that appears to be a TAP threaded into the BUSHING and then a CUP with an extractor handle:


I once had to do the same on the end of a 9000 HP engine crankshaft to extract the bushings that were part of the OIL PUMP DRIVE:


Bob..
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hi

All bushes are back in, had to ream the top bushes, used the moethod above. Sandpaper wrap around a tube and then just used my hands to rotate it. All back in and is tighter than it was...
 

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