1955 TO35 Clutch Replacement

soccertoad20

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I'm replacing everything with my clutch. The real culprits are the pressure plate and throwout bearing but I'm going to replace everything while I have the tractor split. My current pressure plate one has the stamped fingers (which are destroyed, hence the replacement) but I can only find clutch kits with the pressure plates that have the fingers with the bolts and jam nuts. Can I use the other style with my tractor? It is a dual clutch that I have now. Hopefully the pictures show the difference that I'm talking about.

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It will work OK. Did the tractor have dual clutch originally? The dual clutch stated at serial # 177???.
You will have to have a drive clutch with the pressure plate. I'm sure you know that.
 
From the factory I'm not sure what kind of clutch it had. When I bought it a few months ago it did have a dual clutch. I'm not in place to get to the serial number of the tractor. I might be able to after work tomorrow to get it. If it didn't originally have a dual clutch will this newer version still work? You say it will work "OK." Do you mean it won't work as good as it should or it will work just fine and I won't notice any difference at all? The link below to the Ebay item is what I was wanting to purchase. Is that all I would need?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Massey-Ferguson-Clutch-Kit-Assembly-20-35-40-50-135-150-2135-2200-TO35-Brand-New-/230689030417?hash=item35b6234111:g:7QgAAMXQlUNRSazS
 
The pressure plates should be interchangeable. There was a fine and course spline PTO disc, not sure which
yours will be.

Do you have an alignment tool? It is a necessity on a dual clutch. Getting the engine splined back in is
difficult even when everything is right!

Also there are adjustments that will need to be made once the clutch is bolted to the flywheel. The shop
manual walks you through it. Not difficult, but necessary.
 
The late dual clutch has coil springs for the traction disc, the early clutch had Bellville springs for both PTO disc and traction disc. The flywheels are different for each clutch, and main traction discs are different also. They will not interchange unless the flywheel and correct traction disc is replaced also. The late used an air ring shim too..
 
I remember reading something that said the dual stage clutch could not be used in a factory single stage clutch tractor. Darn I can't remember why though. Could it be worked the other way? I do not know.
 
Ok, so if the different dual stage clutches can't be interchanged can someone please post links to all the parts that I would need for the early clutch design (I guess the Bellville design). I need clutch plate, pressure plate, and throwout bearing, and then I guess an alignment tool as well. This website, and others that I've searched do not have clutch kits will all the parts as one item to order. I want to make sure I order the correct parts so I don't need to return anything. It seems like the parts are a lot more expensive for the early style too. Is that right?
 
MF Agco pressure plate assembly # for the early clutch is 182 463 M93, Main transmission disc # is 182 841 M91. Taken from the Agco site, they may be superceded. There were two bearing carriers used that had different bearings, best to use the part # of the old bearing and match it that way..
 
What about through this website or from ebay or some other tractor parts website? Agco I have to find a dealer to order the parts for me.
 
soccer,
I may have gotten suckered so bad on the replacement of my clutch TO35 1957 model duel clutch.

they ordered a clutch pak, would not fit, so they ended up sending my clutch pak back and having it rebuilt. take note as others have said, the serial # of the tractor is very important as they changed the way they were built along the way, hopefully making them better.

that to this day, sounds a bit fishy, but the early one's must have been more trouble to repair especially if you do not know how to do it.

when I got it back, I could have easy shifting of transmission gears and hard almost no way to get the pto in gear or the other way around.

so they had to take the clutch out again, was told they shaved some off the pto clutch pad.

all I know is for the first year or so I just turned the motor off, engaged the pto, would go right in gear with motor off, worked fine,

but after a few years, I guess its worn in a bit, both transmission and pto work fine.

I would not want to go through that again,
if it ever needs a clutch again, I will for sure ask more questions about the skill and knowledge of the mechanic on working on these older Ferguson duel clutch machines.
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Wellmax99,

That's why I posted to this forum. I've seen the two different clutch designs, as noted in my first post with the pictures. My tractor is a 1955, so it's one of the earlier models. Unfortunately, from my research I can't find a clutch kit for the earlier clutch design. I can find the individual pieces but I'm not exactly sure which ones I need. That's why I'm asking the experts here if they can give me the links to the parts that I need. Thanks in advance to all the help.
 
So I got some information today. Some will probably be repeat but I figured I'd put it all out there anyway. Emailed a local tractor repair company. Was going to be $500 for all parts plus tax. Called another company a little farther away and it was $475. Called the local Massey dealer and it was $375 for everything but the pressure plate is remanufactured. I asked the lady about the older vs new clutch design and being interchangeable. They are not. The flywheel design is a little different. I was pretty surprised the dealer was the cheapest (without going online). My tractor serial number is 155052. Here is a link to a breakdown of the TO35 serial numbers:

http://fergusontractors.org/fena/wp-content/uploads/Evolution-of-the-TO-35-to-the-MF-35.pdf

According to the link mine is a mid 1955 deluxe (there is no "S" on my serial number) so it was originally with a dual stage clutch. It has definitely been worked on because it is not gray/green anymore and it is now a 12 V system with neg ground. I'll see if I can post some pictures if I still have them.
 

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