TEA29, setting the timing???

[size=18:06ff4a04b4][color=black:06ff4a04b4]Hi, I removed the starter and spun the engine over a few times to say the least, :) looking for the timing marks on the flywheel with no luck?!?! And I had a pin in the hole & into the flywheel. So I removed the valve cover, turned till #1 was on compression stroke & looked for the marks again, still no marks?? :( .. Plan B, I used a light hooked up to the coil & distributor and when I was on #1 comp TDC with a pin ti the hole & into the hole in the flywheel,I turned the dist till the light came on & locked it down there. But I just read somewhere that the timing is 29deg BTDC? So if that's correct how can I set the timing with out timing marks to go by? Or is the hole I put the pin thru set at 29deg BTDC?? And what is the correct timing degrees number??? Thanks :D [/color:06ff4a04b4][/size:06ff4a04b4]
[size=24:06ff4a04b4]***EDIT: I tried to edit the heading but I'm not allowed to?? Maybe a mod could fix it to "TEA20" NOT 29. Sorry for any confusion.[/size:06ff4a04b4][color=red:06ff4a04b4][/color:06ff4a04b4]
 
(quoted from post at 17:55:41 07/31/15) Is TEA29 a typo? I have heard of a TEA20

Try this
Timing a TEA 20
[size=18:c46fd8f155]Yes it is a typo, thanks for telling me :D I'll take a look at the link you shared,thanks.[/size:c46fd8f155][color=black:c46fd8f155][/color:c46fd8f155]
 
[size=18:fcc0d0c512]Yes that is exactly what I did (in the link) and I hope & assume that the hole was placed at the 29deg BTDC or 1deg BTDC because I also saw that posted somewhere??[/size:fcc0d0c512][color=black:fcc0d0c512][/color:fcc0d0c512]
 
(quoted from post at 06:50:50 08/01/15) Can you pull the starter and look?
color=black:7a8d3f6ccd] Look for what? I already said I had the starter out & and looked at the flywheel all the way around it,more than a few times. There are no marks?[/color:7a8d3f6ccd][size=18:7a8d3f6ccd][/size:7a8d3f6ccd]
 
Sir. I own and have set the ignition timing (6-volts) on my TEA 20 S# 182991 several times and there are NO visual marks that can be seen on the flywheel when the STARTER is removed! There is a 1/4 " diam. hole just below the starter flange that I insert a 1/4" rod/drill bit into that lines up with a 1/4" hole drilled in the FWD side if the flywheel. This RIGGING procedure is to take place with the #1 piston traveling up on the compression stroke. On my TEA 20 this rigging procedure will lock the # 1 cylinder at TOP DEAD CENTER.I then install the DISTRIBUTOR and turn the distributor until the POINTS are just on the verge of opening. I call the corresponding distributor contact point in the distributor cap # 1 and connect the remaining three wires to the spark plugs in the correct firing order.
I recently replaced the clutch and pressure plate in TEA 20 S# 182991 and noticed there is an ARROW stamped on the peripheral of the flywheel. This arrow lines up with a casting mark on the aft side of # 4 cylinder at the same time the rigging pin aligns with the hole In the engine and the hole in the flywheel.....yes # 1 TOP DEAD CENTER.
I then marked the engine casing with a METAL marker (with starter removed)and placed a mark on a tooth of the ring gear lining up with my mark on the engine casting. Each tooth of the flywheel is equal to 2.48 deg. (360/145 teeth). I placed a mark on ten of the teeth.
I gave the tractor a pull and connected a STROBE light to # 1 spark plug (used a 12 volt battery on a work stand)) and found that the ignition was not at the desired timing point that I preferred 25 deg. With the throttle set so as the PTO was running at 525 RPM I turned the distributor housing until the distributor was firing at 25 deg BTDC.
NOW: Here is a note to know.
ENGINE S# SIE to S8995E fitted with Lucas dist. MODEL D3A4 Lucas SERVICE # 40132 has a hole in the flywheel at 10/100/190 and 280 BTDC number 1 cylinder.
ENGINE S# S8996E onwards fitted with Lucas dist. Model D3A4, Lucas service No. 40146 has a hole in the flywheel at TDC # 1,as well as 90/180/and 270 deg before TDC. CORRECT LOCATION OF TIMING PIN IS TDC of firing stroke # 1 cylinder.
I did notice that on U-TUBE there is a video of some one checking a TEA 20 igniting timing In the above procedure that I checked mine. Also in the FERGUSON ARCHIVES "TEA20 Back to life" a posted picture of a Ferguson WITH timing marks on the FWD face of the flywheel
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[color=black:193090c13c]Thank you John Deere D, lots of information there to go thru.The pin in the hole is exactly what I did & turning the dist till my light came on also & locked it down there. I just wasn't sure what the correct timing deg is or how to get it exactly there? Is it 29 or 1, I have read both?? Does when we turn the dist till the light comes on,is it at that point 29deg or 1deg??[/color:193090c13c] :D
 
Tis far far better to own a TEA29, than a 19 and a half....
Your Canadian model might be the '20-85'...as if there isn't already enough confusion eh?
JDD is spot on... British made ANY kinda engine doesn't not- or rarely- have timing marks on anything. A very British thing. My cousin gutted a 12 cylinder Jag some years ago.. thinking he knew what he was doing... which I think is the point of it. If you don't know how to tear into an engine, then you shouldn't be mucking about with engines...or something like that.
Easiest trick is to have a helper. While they work the gear lever, you slowly twist the distributor till it starts. then helper throttles up, and you find the sweet spot- and lock it down. Start good to open up wide open, that's all you need right? And don't try for a slow mellow idle... that doesn't exist either...
 

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