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s19438

06-09-2014 15:16:52
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those of who do pull trailers. do you make it a practice to grease the ball or the tongue mechanism that attaches to the ball ?

thanks.




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Bob (Aust)

06-13-2014 01:30:12
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
My trailer meets the previous requirements regarding brakes - i.e. electric brakes on one axle, with in cabin controller.
However new trailers must meet the latest requirement for "break away" brakes which is a device that locks up the brakes if the trailer becomes disconnected from the towing vehicle.



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Xwild

06-12-2014 16:53:08
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
Bob - that's the best part of a tandem axle.. it doesn't flip over when the only wheel on that side blows and digs into the pavement...
Here in NY any trailer that weights more than 1000lb empty or 3000lb loaded must have "adequate" brakes. Which allows for hydraulic surge brakes. Quite possibly the worst thing ever invented, but what you find on most smaller trailers.



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Bob (Aust)

06-11-2014 15:14:50
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
Trailers in Australia must have one of two types of trailer plug:

Seven pin round plug:



or

Seven pin flat plug:



Double axle trailers under 2,000 kg load must have electric brakes on one axle operated from inside the towing vehicle.
An embarrassing moment with my double axle car trailer......

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Travelling at speeds up to 115 KPH (72 MPH) and I didn't feel the missing wheel. The trailer continued to track normally!

Bob in Oz

'53 TEA20
This post was edited by Bob (Aust) at 15:15:16 06/11/14.

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Xwild

06-11-2014 03:55:24
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
Shouldn't be getting your ground through the ball. If you are, you've got a wiring problem, and in a desperate attempt to find ground, the circuit is finding a path through the ball.



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Tony in Mass.

06-10-2014 18:36:14
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to Red_Chili, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
That is not important 1943... at one time 5 and a half tractors, still known as 2 tractors, was once 'grasshopper'. but with skills and knowledge he has gained...is now 'ninja tractor 2.0'.... but then after looking at that blood squiring squished thumb... maybe back to 1.9....



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chevytaHOE5674

06-10-2014 18:35:38
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
All of my trailers are setup (from the factory) with the ground wire from all the lights and brakes going directly to the ground pin on the truck. Lights all work perfectly without the trailer ball even being attached.



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Tony in Mass.

06-10-2014 14:46:00
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
Steve, in the first section of the forums list on this site is 'tractor transporting', questions and answers about subjects like this. A #14 wire devoted to ground (earth) is a nice start- sometimes. But directionals, 4 ways, trailer brakes, all work much better once the ball cleans itself off and acts as a GOOD ground. We drove ourselves nuts for years trying to get lights to work before leaving the yard, now ya drive the trailer around town a few minutes, then come home and then see what works and lights up. Sometimes everything, with no further detective work.

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s19438

06-10-2014 15:56:45
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to Tony in Mass., 06-10-2014 14:46:00  
I never knew, until now, that the ball is used as a ground.

I feel so dumb.



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Bob (Aust)

06-10-2014 14:27:06
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
Graphite only!



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chevytaHOE5674

06-10-2014 10:07:52
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
What is this talk about grounding through the ball???

Should be one of the wires in the plug that is your ground....



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Tony in Mass.

06-10-2014 07:15:14
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to Bruce(OR), 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
Many years ago, when I was a sweet innocent little boy, my father put grease on the hitch. Then my mother walked too close wearing something white. he never greased it again. The weight is enough it would take decades to rust something tight, and within a couple miles the rust is gone with wear, and a good ground will return anyway. Like already said by others here, a little on the trailer side, the hinge and latch that grasps the bottom of the ball should do, even just once a year.

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tg in VA

06-10-2014 06:00:32
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
I always have greased the ball for my gooseneck hitches. The trailer manufacturer who installed my first gooseneck hitch recommended I grease the ball and I have ever since.



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don hooks

06-09-2014 17:45:19
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
The only time I lubricate the ball is when I expect to leave everything hitched up for a few days. I will spray some lithium grease into the locking mechanism before hitching. I like the idea of dielectric grease for the connectors...



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jon corbett

06-09-2014 16:57:27
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
electrical cleaner for plug,wd40 for ball and locking mech.



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maxwell99

06-09-2014 16:57:00
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
Sometimes I spray the moving points of my hitches with spray graphite.

Lubes the moving points, but will not collect dirt and dust.



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Ken Crisman

06-09-2014 15:28:22
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
I try to always keep my trailer ball plus the coupler on the trailer tongue clean of dirt , dust & rust as much as possible . Too many times you can loose a good grd. if not , I then smear a good coating of grease on those areas which avoid premature wear & helps also with the grd . I also keep a ball cover on the ball . Also the wire plugs should be freuquently cleaned to a shiny appearance & lubricated with an bit of Dielectric grease occassionally .HTH ! God bless, Ken

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David G

06-09-2014 15:21:19
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 Re: OT trailering question in reply to s19438, 06-09-2014 15:16:52  
I do not.



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