starter trouble

Z-man

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I had my starter reconditioned and it seem to be turning hard as if it were biding as it turns if in fact it will not even start the engine with 12 volt of power to it and I'm running a 6 volt system. I'm wonder if it should have shims or can someone help me make sense of it. thank you
 
Could be a bad ground. If it hasn't already been done, I would run a heavy gauge ground wire from the battery to one of the starter bolts. What was the starter doing before you had it rebuilt?
 
Is it hard to turn over by hand?Got any painted surfaces that act as an insulator?Probably a burnt armature.
 
(quoted from post at 03:31:53 05/13/14) I had my starter reconditioned and it seem to be turning hard as if it were biding as it turns if in fact it will not even start the engine with 12 volt of power to it and I'm running a 6 volt system. I'm wonder if it should have shims or can someone help me make sense of it. thank you

Look at the ring gear on the flywheel and make sure it hasn't moved forward causing the starter to bind against it.
 
As Inno had said it needs a good ground the bell housing has to be rust free since you are running 6volt it needs all the power it can get. Are the battery cables big enough?
 
I believe they are because it worked fine before it was rebuild, but the guy who did the work painted the starter so that may be the issue, thanks
 
that I did not check but the guy who did the work painted the outer case of the starter, so what your saying is if the starter turns hard by hand when not mounted on the tractors bell its something inside the starter?
 
before rebuild, on the voltage supply post it was burnt off and the starter wasn't getting volt unless I would manually hold the wire for it to make contact which created lots of spark, fire and heat. so that was the issue and I had a wire ran from the battery before and it broke the ear on the starter case, but maybe I had it to tight and that wire was there before and after the rebuild so I think the painted that was sprayed on the case may be the problem and thanks for the help
 
No, there are no shims. One of the quirks of those engines is the ring gear will sometimes work back on the flywheel and cause the starter drive to not engage, just grind. Doesn't sound like your problem.
 
I think he was asking if the engine was hard to turn, like something seized or binding. You should be able to turn the engine by hand between compression strokes by holding the gen belt tight and turning the fan.

The starter should also be turnable by hand. Hard to get a good grip on it, but you should be able to turn the starter drive and feel the starter turn.

If you do have to take the starter back off, look at the starter gear carefully. Try to see how deep it is going into the flywheel gear. If it's bottoming out against the base of the gear and grinding metal away, something is wrong, wrong drive, spacer left out, something...
 
No, what I'm saying is if the engine turns good by hand,(hand on a wrench to front pulley nut of engine.) That tells if the bearings or anything else is binding and eliminates the starter and electrical.If thats ok easiest thing to do is borrow someones starter to troubleshoot or have it checked out.
 
The external starter bolt where the cable connects also has another connection inside the starter which will become either partially or fully disconnected when anyone over-tightens the external part without applying a second wrench underneath the cable. Its an easy fix to take apart and reconnect if you can solder.
 
ok I was not sure what you meant a first but I understand now and thanks for your help. I believe I will try the ground first and see if I can clean the paint off the one I got
 
yes that could be a problem when I take it off to scrap the new painted case I will look for shards of metal and depth of starter seat thanks
 
I think you may have misunderstood, I mean the bolt that is holding the whole starter to the bell housing, the post for the voltage/ amps has already been fixed but thanks for you help
 

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