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Source for steering box oil seals

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Ark68SS

01-24-2014 15:08:44
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For a TO20, part #195 761 M1. The parts book gives dimensions of 1 5/16" x 1 7/8" x 7/16". These are the seals that the steering arms go through into the steering box. Neither Yesterday's Tractor or Sparex carry this seal. Thanks for any help.

BillL




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Bob (Aust)

01-25-2014 22:54:17
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 Re: Source for steering box oil seals in reply to Ark68SS, 01-24-2014 15:08:44  
Nice bit of polishing!! :lol:
But if you really want to add Bling, get the transmission shifter and throttle chromed:

[URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Woomera/media/Rechrome1.jpg.html][/URL]

Kids tell me a chrome shifter adds 20 MPH to the top speed!!!
:lol:
Bob in Oz



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Ark68SS

01-25-2014 11:05:37
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 Re: Source for steering box oil seals in reply to Ark68SS, 01-24-2014 15:08:44  
The steering box (along with most of the rest of the tractor) has been taken apart.
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Samn40, I buggered up the seals trying to remove them, so I won't be able to reuse any part of it. I'm not going for a full-blown exact restoration, one of my plans is to polish the aluminum bits and clear coat them to add a little bling to the ol' heap.
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But, I did find an interchange for the 50521-S seal. NAPA carries it as a NOS 13027 so I'll have them order a couple of them for me. Thanks for all the help!

BillL
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samn40

01-25-2014 01:10:12
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 Re: Source for steering box oil seals in reply to Ark68SS, 01-24-2014 15:08:44  
Take your steering box apart and take the housing and shaft to a seal and bearing specialist and ask for the slimmest modern seal available. Then cut the metal rim off the old seal leaving a slight bit of the insert. Place the new seal in the housing and then glue and tap the old metal face back on so it looks original. Fill the box with grease and drill and tap a hole somewhere not too obvious like under the battery and insert a grease zerk. Now grease until you see some grease come out the top of the steering shaft. That top bearing never gets lubed. You should never have to look at it again! Sam

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Bob (Aust)

01-24-2014 17:18:23
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 Re: Source for steering box oil seals in reply to Ark68SS, 01-24-2014 15:08:44  
I took an old leather seal to a bearing and seal shop and they had new seals to suit:

[URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Woomera/media/Ferguson%20Tractor/SteeringBoxSeal.jpg.html][/URL]

Grind off the centering casting and the seals will go on without disassembling the steering box.
This post was edited by Bob (Aust) at 17:19:04 01/24/14.

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miner09

01-24-2014 16:02:39
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 Re: Source for steering box oil seals in reply to Ark68SS, 01-24-2014 15:08:44  
Sparex shows part S.41867 for the TO 20 steering seal, but it shows to be Ferguson # 195763M1.



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Richard L

01-25-2014 10:10:53
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 Re: Source for steering box oil seals in reply to miner09, 01-24-2014 16:02:39  
Ferguson Parts Book shows 195 761 M1, 195 763 M1 is the seal for the pto shaft.



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Jason S.

01-24-2014 15:54:15
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 Re: Source for steering box oil seals in reply to Ark68SS, 01-24-2014 15:08:44  
Try looking at an SKF 13027 or a National 473423.

http://www.fme-cat.com/overlays/part-detail.aspx?
pNum=473423&partType=Oil%20Seal&brandId=NW#.UuL87b
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miner09

01-24-2014 15:51:20
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 Re: Source for steering box oil seals in reply to Ark68SS, 01-24-2014 15:08:44  
If your talking about the output shaft seal you can remove old seal and see if there is a number on it. Or if no number you can measure shaft and outer measurement of housing and go to a bearing shop and they can match it. We have Purvis Bearing and I use them a lot. Take old seal it may help.



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