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Ark68SS

01-08-2014 19:31:23
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2tractors said: (quoted from post at 18:11:34 01/08/14) Don't get too many things broke apart at once. Parts take longer to arrive than memory of how it all came apart.Good start and you do have the pics to go by.[/quote:0cf515f040]

It's broke apart a whole lot more now. :D
Pulled the motor to fix a rear main seal leak and to figure out why the clutch felt funny. I think I found the problem. :(
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Apparently somebody has replaced the clutch in the past and didn't set it up correctly. Look at the wear on the pressure plate arms in the above photo, and what that did to the throwout bearing in the photo below.

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This is the point where I found the excessive play in the input shaft that I discussed in an earlier thread.
Started working with a 7" wire brush on a grinder to knock the rust off of the ol' heap, here's some pics of the cleanup

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[quote:0cf515f040="2tractors"](quoted from post at 18:11:34 01/08/14) Don't get too many things broke apart at once. Parts take longer to arrive than memory of how it all came apart.Good start and you do have the pics to go by.


It's broke apart a whole lot more now. :D
Pulled the motor to fix a rear main seal leak and to figure out why the clutch felt funny. I think I found the problem. :(
[URL=http://s113.photobucket.com/user/pvpatriot1/media/1949%20Harry%20Ferguson%20Tractor/November2013005_zps10f93c5a.jpg.html][/URL]

Apparently somebody has replaced the clutch in the past and didn't set it up correctly. Look at the wear on the pressure plate arms in the above photo, and what that did to the throwout bearing in the photo below.

[URL=http://s113.photobucket.com/user/pvpatriot1/media/1949%20Harry%20Ferguson%20Tractor/December2013025_zps6e22e883.jpg.html][/URL]

This is the point where I found the excessive play in the input shaft that I discussed in an earlier thread.
Started working with a 7" wire brush on a grinder to knock the rust off of the ol' heap, here's some pics of the cleanup

[URL=http://s113.photobucket.com/user/pvpatriot1/media/1949%20Harry%20Ferguson%20Tractor/November2013014_zpsa7d3617b.jpg.html][/URL]

[URL=http://s113.photobucket.com/user/pvpatriot1/media/1949%20Harry%20Ferguson%20Tractor/November2013015_zps87536516.jpg.html][/URL]

[URL=http://s113.photobucket.com/user/pvpatriot1/media/1949%20Harry%20Ferguson%20Tractor/December2013003_zps96c1db59.jpg.html][/URL]

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I've used up three 7" and one 4" wire wheels on the hand grinder and one 6" on the bench grinder so far removing the rust from the tractor and the parts I've taken off. Still have a ways to go.

I'll try to get some more pics up this week if anyone's interested.

BillL
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Duner Wi

01-09-2014 17:02:22
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 Re: 1949 TO20 build thread in reply to Ark68SS, 01-08-2014 19:31:23  
I like the photos.



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Ark68SS

01-29-2014 18:21:07
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 Re: 1949 TO20 build thread in reply to Duner Wi, 01-09-2014 17:02:22  
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Thanks, ya'll. I was reading Bob from Australia's post and realized I haven't updated this thread lately, so here goes.

I pulled the top cover off to check out the hydraulic system, and found LOTS of rust on the linkage.
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The lift control yoke was so bad I got another one from a guy in Texas who's parting out a TO20. Here's another pic of the the old one, if you look closely you can see how the holes that the clevis pins go through are all wallered out and the metal was too thin and rusted to try to fix it.

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I popped the piston out of the cylinder and cleaned all the watered up gunk off of the parts. The cylinder had a little scoring, so I honed it a little bit. I'm keeping the original piston and rings. They both looked OK.

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I figured I might as well pull the lift arms off, and here's the rig I used to do that.

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Problem is, it didn't work. Those are 5/8" studs that bent trying to pull the arms. I was using a rosebud tip on a torch to heat the arm while we were pulling, and it didn't budge a millimeter. So, I said to heck with it, and left them on.

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BillL

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01-29-2014 19:13:31
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 Re: 1949 TO20 build thread in reply to Ark68SS, 01-29-2014 18:21:07  
I have made some progress, here are some of the parts that are primed and ready for paint. I'm using Spray Max 2-part epoxy aerosol primer, it's like the 2-part primers you would shoot through a gun, but it's more convenient for me to use the spray cans. It's a bit expensive at around $18 a can, but it dries harder than the hinges of hell, and I know that it's gonna last longer than me. :)
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If you ever wondered what a chrome wheel would look like, this should give you some idea. I sanded one of the wheel centers with 60 grit, and took a pic with it mounted to the axle. You can see I have the tractor "body" primered now, too.

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I took the distributor apart and cleaned it up, made sure the advance mechanism was free, installed new points, condenser, and rotor and painted it. This pic shows what the advance mechanism looks like. It was nice and free and the springs looked good, so I didn't have to do anything to it. The two other pics are before/after of the dizzy restore.

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Here is the steering box all tore apart. My original plan was to polish the cast aluminum and clear coat it, but I found a shiny aluminum paint that I may use instead. The box is getting new bushings, bearings and seals, and a new steering wheel.

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BillL

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