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Jerry/MT

10-15-2013 17:43:25
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How are you setting the timing? It should be 6BTDC @ 400 rpm(low idle).




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30smta

10-15-2013 17:50:54
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 Re: to-30 over heat in reply to Jerry/MT, 10-15-2013 17:43:25  
so the 10* was closer. book i have said to set flywheel 30, hold till points stared to open but mine has been eletronic so? I will move to the 6* and try again. what raditior would be better? heavier or lighter? 5 or 8 or 12 fins per inch?



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Jerry/MT

10-16-2013 09:12:03
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 Re: to-30 over heat in reply to 30smta, 10-15-2013 17:50:54  
If you are over advanced with the timing your are probably getting a lot of ignition "knock" and that can severely damage the engine and cause it to run hot.
If you don"t know how to time the engine, look in the archives. I"ve written a simple procedure numerous times in there. If you can"t find it, I"ll post it again.



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Jason S.

10-15-2013 18:04:48
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 Re: to-30 over heat in reply to 30smta, 10-15-2013 17:50:54  
What kind of book do you have? It's no wonder you had problems. Even 10 is too much, because you have to remember there is around 26 degrees of mechanical advance in the distributor so if you set the base timing at 10 that would be 36 degrees total which is too much and 30 base plus 26 comes out to 56 which will blow the bottom end out of the block. Your trying to ignite the fuel when the piston is at the bottom of the stroke. Get a timing light and make sure the tractor is warmed up and idling at 400 rpms. Anymore than that and the distributor will start advancing the timing. Shine the timing light in the hole in the bell housing and set it to 6 degrees. That simple. Doesn't matter if it's electronic ignition or not.

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30smta

10-16-2013 05:16:25
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 Re: to-30 over heat in reply to Jason S., 10-15-2013 18:04:48  
I'll move it down, i was going off my i/t manual. can any one tell me the diff on radiators? 5 or 8 or 12 fins per/in how to tell a good from cheap? is there any good test for the water pump? i doesnt leak, and the bearings feel good.



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Jason S.

10-16-2013 06:06:14
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 Re: to-30 over heat in reply to 30smta, 10-16-2013 05:16:25  
Fins or tubes? Fins are what is on the outside of the radiator and don"t have any effect on the cooling it"s the tubes behind the fins that matter. If you want a good radiator get one from Agco. You will pay more but you will get a better fitting and lasting radiator. If you have an original radiator you could have it recored. The cheap aftermarket radiators are just that....cheap!! They don"t last long and don"t fit well. If the bearings are tight in the water pump and there isn"t any water coming out of the weep hole then it should be good, but I have seen cases where the impeller came loose on the shaft which in that case the pump would seem good but when running the impeller would hardly spin. Have you tried flushing the motor and radiator? Btw...always run with a thermostat...without one all your getting is increased fuel consumption and increased wear on the engine.

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