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Re: Same TE 20 New Problem

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DON TX

10-27-2012 11:00:29
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Did a comp test. Still 125#s all 4. Looked at the distributor and found the spark plug wire nodes going into the dist were corroded bad. Water had sat in the top of the cap where wires connect. It's the screw on leads with no rubber seal and corrosion had set up bad in #2 & 3. Still getting spark just not enuff. Spark looked good outside but not good inside, I guess. Cleaned and started right up. I had cleaned those up a couple of months ago so I know it is a recent problem. Had kept it covered til I got the gas tank and dizzy back on. I'm guessing the hood or tank had drained water right on top of the dizzy and filled the wire holes up. Didn't do that till I put the tank and/or the hood on. Now for the overheating prob. There was no circulation at all. Removed the water pump and impeller looked good but tried to push water into the head with water hose, no go. Can't get a wire more than 3"s into the head thru the top opening. What do I do? Pour a flush and let it sit? That could take some time. Looking for suggestions. TIA
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Jerry/MT

10-27-2012 18:42:18
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 Re: Same TE 20 New Problem in reply to DON TX, 10-27-2012 11:00:29  
Is the thermostat stuck closed? It"s supposwed to be in the upper rad hose. Have you removed the goosneck from the head and seen if the head outlet or the head itself is plugged?



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10-28-2012 10:45:06
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 Re: Same TE 20 New Problem in reply to Jerry/MT, 10-27-2012 18:42:18  
Reread my 1st post. I removed the tstat to find no circulation. The head is plugged. I have the goose neck removed and filled the head. The liquid is sitting to the rim of the head. It does not flow down to the water pump. Is there anything I can use to clean the head without removing it?
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Jerry/MT

10-28-2012 12:40:40
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 Re: Same TE 20 New Problem in reply to DON TX, 10-28-2012 10:45:06  
What"s plugging the head? Is it lime deposits? If so, I wonder if taking it to a machine shop and having it hot tanked will clean it up? Are you sure it"s just the head?



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 Re: Same TE 20 New Problem in reply to Jerry/MT, 10-28-2012 12:40:40  
I assume it's rust. Could be anything. The system has been closed so don't suspect mice or other critters. When I drained it to remove the radiator the water was very rusty. With the w/p removed the block drains thru the opening created and the block drain works. As I said, I'm trying to do this w/o removing the head. I don't want to get into the valve train. It'll have to be removed to tank it. Don't want to open a can of worms unless it's necessary.

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Jason S.

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 Re: Same TE 20 New Problem in reply to DON TX, 10-28-2012 13:09:37  
Have you tried blowing air thru the passages? I know it will make a mess and blow water and rust all over you but it doesnt sound like you have too many options left besides removing the head.



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Jerry/MT

10-28-2012 19:25:46
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 Re: Same TE 20 New Problem in reply to DON TX, 10-28-2012 13:09:37  
You may not have a choice if it"s that blocked up. There"s not a lot of skinny passages in the head that I recall so I can"t imagine it"s just rust. Maybe someone put muddy water in there in an emergency.

I"d try a good radiator flush(Prestone Flush?). Any way you can hook a hose fitting to the block drain and back flush it?



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