FBH44

FB,
You commented on my post about my 41' H "wavy plate's" installation photos on Thursday the 23rd.
"The wavy plate is in backwards. I did the same thing, except my drive shaft bounced around so much it destroyed a few things. You have carefully installed it backwards, it just needs to be removed out and turned around and reinserted, so it has as much gap in there as possible. What is happening is the drive shaft is being held back and the forward end of the drive shaft is not going into the pilot bearing. The forward end of the drive shaft is bouncing around free. Everything is bouncing free, around as it rotates. Don't feel bad, I did it, the Case-IH dealer couldn't figure it out, none of the service guys could see it, the oldest guy at the dealers took one look, said the plate is in backwards. Good luck. I think is called a joint ring. Odd name."
I really appreciate your input. I think I see what you're talking about but can't I just rotate it around 90 degrees after I remove the tapered bolts, nuts, washers and retainers and then reassemble the shaft? I am no mechanic to say the least. Thanks again.
Sapper

No, as I see this the drive shaft has to physically actually move FORWARDS, toward the engine, another 1 1/4" or so, until the froward end of it is engaged inside the pilot bearing. Right now forward end of the drive shaft is not inside the pilot bearing. That forward end of the drive shaft is free to move around, rotate around, bang around, and it is carrying the pressure plate, the clutch plate,etc., all around with it as it rotates. You can see it has flopped and banged around so much so far, it has broken at least one bolt hole on the aluminum carrier thing.
Fixing this is simple, but some of a hassle.
First, don't drive the tractor til you fix this. It is just damaging itself.
2nd, since you have a broken aluminum carrier, you have to find another one in a salvage yard. You can do it, we are lucky owning H's, there's lots of them, you just have so search around. Ebay probably has them too. Get one that's not broksn.
THEN you have to remove the 4 bolts on the wavy plate, loosen other things, remove the drive shaft, remove things until you get the aluminum carrier out. Replace it withone that has no broken bolt holes.
Reassemble everything, and insert that drive shaft ALL THE WAY FORWARD, INTO THE PILOT BEARING. You will not be able to see this, you have to 'feel' that it's in there.
Reassemble, and install the wavy plate flex ring THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Not rotated 90-degrees, but turned end for end, so it provides the maximum amount of space in there. You do not want to hold that drive shaft back, you want to push it forwards. THIS IS CRUCIAL. Reassemble the wavy plate with the maximum amount of space in there, and look at your pictures. If it looks the same, it ain't right. If you can see a big difference, if you can see it is providing a lot more gap or space in there, it is right. Keep messing with it, turning it, you'll see. You'll have an AH-HAH! monent.
Bolt it all back together.
Now Owen and Jim told me I ws adjusting the pressure plate figners wrong, and should not do it like that, so I guess I am wrong about that. I don't understand that procedure, maybe they can fill you in on that. I guess I do NOT undertstand adjusting pressure plate fingers.

I just went out to barn and double-checked my H. The wavy-plate flex-ring 4-bolt thing IS installed with about 1 1/4" of air gap inside there, so it does hold the drive shaft all the way forward into the pilot bearing.

Thank you FB!!
Sapper

If the holes in the "wavey Plate" are the same in the rearward feature as they are in the forward wavy feature, rotating it 90 will be just fine. Jim

Is not rotating the wavy plate 90 degrees the same as turning it around? Currently a rear protruding wave is on the input shaft, and rotating it 90 degrees causes it to line up with the transmission shaft.

Yes I believe you guys are right. I'm still trying to get my head around the geometry of this, but I believe you are all right.

Blocking the clutch pedal down will appow the disk to be free to move. This allows the pilot snout on the trans to align with the pilot bearing in the Flywheel easily. The holes in the wavey plate need to be identical to each other for the rotating 90 degree idea to work. It will be fine. Jim