adding wet line to farmall 240

MJF

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I have a 240 with a fast hitch....id like to add an additional line to run equipment.....whats the cheapest/easiest route to go?.....it has the splined shaft next to the dash for the hydra touch but that is all
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Where the hydraulic lines from the front hydraulic pump come back toward the dash along the right side of the engine they should connect to some hydraulic control units under the fuel tank. On my Farmall 240 which has two hydro touch levers there are outlets on both side of the tractor for connecting to remotes systems. I am not using them for anything so they are presently capped off. If your tractor has the hydro touch shaft it should be set up with the necessary control units I noted unless someone has done a major strip job on your tractor. Almost everything associated with the hydraulic systems on the Farmall and International 240 is NLA from CaseIH and whatever route you go will most likely be through salvage yard tractors for any required components you might need along with some very creative engineering at this point if those control units are missing, Hal.
 
Can you provide a couple more photos one of the left side and one of the right side somewhat lower then this one as it does shown you have at least one of the hydraulic control units. I take it you don't have an operators manual for the tractor as the one I have clearly shows the rear, left and right side outlets for the three valve touch control system. The rear set of outlets are most likely running to your fast hitch if your tractor is so equipped. The ones on the right and left side could be pipe plugs or quick disconnect fitting for remote hydraulic lines. Since you are missing the control levers on the right side of the rear hood and just have and exposed shaft I don't know if you can tell if your tractor has one or two remote sets which are controlled by the levers if they were present. I have two levers which control the forward two pair of outlets and the rear set of outlets are connected to the fast hitch and are controlled by the Touch Control lever to the right of the operator's seat. The photos which will help identify what you currently have on your tractor need to be about 6" to 8" lower then the one you posted which does show one of the control units like above the starter and below the control unit you have already provided. I could send you some pages out of my Operator Manual if that would be of any help but would have to be through the U. S. Postal Service as I'm not a computer geek that knows how to do the scan and email or post something on this forum other then typed text. My email is open if you care to provide a mailing address for some copies which might clarify this somewhat for you, Hal.
 

I added 2 more pics.....top and bottom are the right side and middle pic is of the left side.

Mine has the single splined shaft so single remote. I can see under the dash where that shaft should have a linkage attached to it.

Yes it does have fast hitch. The lines on the left go under the seat and to the hitch



Thanks for all your help
 
Your pictures are beginning to show what you have to work with but another important piece is still missing. You said your tractor is set up for a single hydro touch control valve it appears since you only have a shaft for a single control handle. Can you see which control unit that lever would activate if you had a lever to move forward and backward? Also, does your fast hitch operate from the touch control lever to the right of the seat?
On my tractor, the fast hitch operates from the touch control lever to the right of the seat which activates a control unit on the left side of the tractor but not the one on the far left. Your photos shows some tubes coming off the top of a control unit and running to the rear most likely under the seat to which the fast hitch is plumbed. Is there another control unit to the left of the one that the tubes are attached too that runs to the rear of the tractor? On the right side of my tractor the control unit to the extreme right hand side and directly above where the hydraulic lines from the pump attach to a control unit there is a block attached to the bottom of the control unit. That block has a couple of fittings to which two hydraulic hose connectors are attached with covers. On the far left side of my group of control units I have two elbows coming out of the bottom of the left most control unit which are capped off with what appears to be pipe type plugs. Since neither of these control units are presently plumbed for auxiliary hydraulic needs they are non-functional with the caps and plugs installed.
I looked at my 240 tractor parts catalog and have identified the parts needed to modify your tractor to run a loader with the hydro touch system but the unknown is what control unit your lever would activate if moved from the neutral position as the parts are somewhat different for a left side or right side system. I did a check with part resources available through the CaseIH network and about half of the parts could be obtained from them but the other half is NLA and would have to come from a salvage or part tractor somewhere to plumb in a system using the hydraulic system on your tractor in the manner it was designed. Again, I can send you copies from my Operator's Manual and Parts Catalog if you want to see the system in a pictorial format through the US Postal Service if you feel they would be a benefit to you but will need an address. This is about the extent of information I can provide you relative to this thread except for maybe some clarifying questions you might still have but I have identified what you need to have an operational system on your tractor in the manner it was designed by IHC. I can not help with coming up with a system using non-IHC components and designing a system using a lot of non-traditional components through various modifications to the existing system presently installed on your tractor as all of my restorations have been to original IH designs using their parts and components regardless of the difficulty in obtaining them, Hal.
 
It looks like the linkage would be on the right side, maybe coming down in the direction of the steering. I apriciate all your help. I guess my biggest issue is that I dont know of any 240's in my area to look at

I have the IT Shop Manual but that has little info in it, I may pick up a few other manuals
 
There were only about 3500 Farmall 240 tractors produced by IH which is a low number for an IHC tractor. The hydraulics on the International Utility 240 are basically the same and something like 10,000 of them were produced so that helps if having to search for salvage parts. If your hydra-touch valve controls the right hand control unit you need part no. 371577R1 block along with several other items to tap into that control unit. That block appears to be held in place with (3) 3/8" cap screws which secures it in place with a couple of O-rings. If the block is on your tractor it would have two plugs on the outside capping the hydraulic supply and return lines needed to run a loader but I don't recall seeing it in your photos. You are also going to need a control lever for the hydra-touch system for it to be operational which can be one of three different ones. Also, you never answered if the fast hitch is controlled from a lever beside the seat as it can also be controlled by those levers beside the fuel tank. Page 263 in the TC-53B Parts Catalog clearly shows the entire system for the hydraulic control system you are dealing with.
I know what you mean in trying to find a 240 to get a visual of something on another tractor as during the 2 or 3 years I spent on restoring mine I wasn't able to locate one anywhere in this area that could be used as a reference during my restoration. I live in south central Missouri and don't know where you are located but think they are located mainly in specific regions of this country like Michigan, Pennsylvania and probably others from what I have come to believe. I wish you success in your endeavor but if you have a narrow front model be very careful whenever the bucket is very high off the ground with a load as I'm sure it could likely roll over. Also, take into consideration without frame rails you are placing a lot of stress on the engine and other castings that have to handle the weight and can be broken especially with heavy loads on uneven or rough terrain, Hal.
 
Sorry I forgot to mention that yes the fast hitch is ran off of the touch control on the right of the seat

I plan to use the wet line for drawbar equipment and not a loader

Thanks for everything, mike
 
Mike, I don't know where I got the loader thing but probably from some other thread I was following. What you have is the perfect situation for running some auxiliary equipment with the right hook-up. You need to verify for sure which control unit is operated with the lever (if you had one) for the hydra touch system and then find the needed parts to provide the hydraulic power to your equipment which appears to be missing at this point. I have a salvage hydraulic control system I purchased from a salvage 240 tractor that had power steering which I intend to install on my Farmall 240 the first time I have to tear into it for some reason. I am just not ready to tear down a freshly restored tractor at this time as quite a bit will have to be removed to gain access to those control units under the fuel tank. I will look at what I have on those salvage control units I won't be needing for the power steering system addition and may have some parts you need to shorten your part search. If your tractor is configured like mine I have four control units under the fuel tank. Starting at the right side or brake pedal side and going across to the left or clutch pedal side - the first control unit is for the right hand hydraulic connections, the next or second one is really a dummy unit and does nothing except permits hydraulic fluid flow between the control units since it is manual steering and where the power steering would be powered from with the correct control unit, in the center is a big casting to which the control units are attached too, the third one is for the fast hitch which is controlled by the lever by the seat and the fourth and last one is for the left side hydraulic connections. I believe the lever on your tractor (which is missing) beside the fuel tank would control either the right or left side control unit with the necessary connecting hydraulic components. Their should be a linkage from that shaft where the lever would be installed dropping down to one of those control units and you might have to remove the back lower white trim panel under the dash to be able to see which one as things get tight back there below the dash panel.
Do you plan on attending the RPRU in Sedalia, Missouri the week after next on June 10-13 as I will have my 240 there for display and would be happy to show your what you will be dealing with.
I am going to the tractor shed for more information and I'll post again later after I answer a couple of my own questions. I take it you don't have power steering on your tractor as it was a very rare option on the Farmall 240 to start with but you certainly could as it could be ordered - please advise if manual or power steering as that makes a difference in what your photos are representing on the right side. It appears the outer most control unit on the left side is activated by the control linkage from the touch control system to the right of the seat as the control rod is quite visible in your photo. If that being the case and I see the left side photo correctly you might not even have a control unit for left side hydraulic outlets. I'll refresh myself a little by looking at my tractor as it's been a year now since I finished it's restoration, Hal.
 
After reviewing my Farmall 240 it appears to me from your photos you only have two units under the fuel tank for hydraulic controlled power. One is what I called a dummy in position two from the right or brake pedal side which is really the hydraulic system regulator and safety valve for the system without any external controls. The unit on your tractor on the left (clutch pedal) side is for controlling the fast hitch through the Tel-A-Depth lever beside the seat. What you need to install on your tractor is either the left or right side control valve with hydraulic connectors for your remote equipment. Depending on which side you can locate will determine the other components you require for control and functionality of the added feature. The one item I can't understand is the control lever (which is actually missing) and the splined shaft on which a lever would be installed you have noted as being on your 240 - why would it be there with nothing to control?? If you install a right hand valve you will need the linkage between some components which install on the splined shaft you note as being visible. If you install on the left hand side you will need some additional parts as that location would be controlled from an additional cross shaft running from the right side of the tractor over to the left hand control unit position which is on the end of the control unit controlled by the Tel-A-Depth lever. In either case from my experience with Farmall 240 part availability for my restoration most will be NLA from CaseIH. Your best source of the required components will be from a salvage Farmall or International 240 tractor somewhere. Knowing what parts and how to describe them to someone will take some research on your part along with a part catalog which will identify them by part number. I would guess you could probably find what you need at Bates Corporation in Indiana but that would most likely come at a higher cost then from a salvage tractor somewhere. I checked what I had off of the salvage tractor with the power steering and don't have anything you would need. The tractor I obtained them from was an International Utility 240 with a backhoe on the rear with the hydraulic power coming from the source you are using for your fast hitch without either remote control valve. The required parts should be a relatively easy find on a salvage 240 as most would have had at least a single hydraulic remote but finding the salvage tractor will require some effort especially one which hasn't already been fairly well stripped. You will also have to replace the four 7/16"-14 NC cap screws with either 10 1/2" or 13" ones depending on the total number of hydraulic units you end up with under the fuel tank. The right and left hand end plate castings can still be used on the outside unit you add. You will probably want to replace all the O-rings between the individual units which provide sealing with the stack-up of hydraulic components. Hope all of this has been somewhat helpful and wish you success in this task and plea advise if you have further questions, Hal.
 
Im in Pennslavania so I wont be making the Rpru. Do the valves interchange with anything other model, like the 340?.......
no power steering on mine

You've certainly cleared things up for me any I do appreciate your help......now to start gathering pcs
 
I looked quickly at my Farmall and International 340 parts catalog and the method of integrating and mounting the remote outlets to the left or right control valves are totally different with few if any common parts between the two models which would be of any help, Hal.
 

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