Need help identifying (pics)

55a · May 19, 2015

I know this page is for IH tractors but I posted this on implement alley , didn't get any information about the model number of this plow.
Does anyone know what the model number is? I got new pans for it and want to restore it.
Thanks for any information
JG

CNKS · May 19, 2015

I don't know the number, but it probably replaces the MH 150 semi-mounted disc plow. I used the MH 150 on an H in the 50's. No problem asking it here, someone will probably know.

kub6040 · May 19, 2015

I don't know either but a beautiful plow and tractor combo you have .

fastfarmall · May 19, 2015

Dont know what the No.is either,but it's called a disk plow, I think they were designed to use in the wheat area, like a primary tillage,and it would leave some of the wheat stubble on top, to prevent wind erosion. But it leaves the ground pretty rough and open . The big disadvantage was it would let the soil dry out, but it pulled easier than a moldboard plow.

fastfarmall · May 19, 2015

P.S. Can u find another one for parts your missing one disk, If that's a SMTA you can pull a 4 blade easy !

used red MN · May 20, 2015

I'm going to guess the tractor is a 300. If you zoom in on the shot from the rear you can see the straight hood side and the chrome Farmall script. The trans deck looks to narrow to be a 400. No help on the plow. Do the fast hitch prongs look like they are factory installs?

Haas · May 20, 2015

Here is one that is for the 140 tractor. I restored this a couple years ago. Plowed a little with it this spring. It left the ground too rough to suit me.

Haas · May 20, 2015

The one point hitch disk plow for the 140 is model 1-F 151. Built 1954 to 1956. The same plow was also made in a 2 point hitch version for the 200 tractor.

Todd in NC · May 20, 2015

I'm sorry, I can't help you on the plow. But, if it's not too much trouble, could you tell me where you got the new discs. I need some for mine in a bad way. Thank you, Todd

Jim Becker · May 20, 2015

Back to the original question:

The disk plows made for the Farmall 300 and 400 tractors were the 34-F30 and the 4-F40. The 34-F30 was 3-furrow, reducible to 2. The 4-F40 was 4-furrow reducible to 3. The only difference between the models was the beam, which was longer for the larger plow. The first year of production (1955), they used a screw type gauge wheel. In 1956, they changed to a pin adjusted gauge wheel. They also added a parking stand in 1956.

Since your plow appears to have 3 disks and a frame sticking well past the last bottom, it looks like a 4-F40 reduced to 3 furrows. Since it has a screw type gauge wheel and no stand, it was probably built in 1955.

Haas · May 20, 2015

I don't think replacement disks for these plows are available. The original disks were 26 inches in diameter. I have heard of folks getting disk harrow disks of that diameter and then making the holes to fit the IH mounting. I think the harrow disks don't match the dish depth exactly.

tomtinker · May 20, 2015

I have a three point version of that 140 0ne point hitch disk plow built around 1960. Do you know what model number
they were?

55a · May 20, 2015

THANK YOU , Jim, you made my day !!! I have been looking for that information for a long time.
I had my pans made at Oliver Dahlman Equipment Co. In Elkton Fla (www.oliverdahlman.com). They have been in business since 1963 and make cultivating equipment and specialty type tillage equipment. Very knowledgable folks, I talked to a Bill or Bob I can't remember . Their phone # 904-692-1326.
I shipped one of my pans to them and they made exact new ones. Mine for 26 inch and are good quality heavy duty and fit perfectly.
The tractor is a 400 gas burner and one of my favorites.
Thanks to everyone for yals replies
JG

55 50 Ron · May 20, 2015

It's the nature of a disc plow to leave the ground rough.

Jim Becker · May 20, 2015

There was a model 200 that was built in 1-point, 2-point, and 3-point versions. I think it was very similar if not identical to the one pictured. Maybe Haas can add a comment.

Haas · May 20, 2015

I have a parts catalog for 140 implements. It lists the 1-F 200 plow on the title page for the one point 1-F 151 plow. Built in 1957. There is no
mention of any difference in parts between the two. I have seen photos somewhere of the two point hitch version and it is the same as the one
point version except for the double prongs.

CNKS · May 20, 2015

Fastfarmall, You are confusing the disk plow in the picture with a "tiller" or a oneway as named in wheat country or other areas. A oneway as you say does not completely bury everything as the disk or moldboard plow does. It has more disks and has a greater angle, such as an offset disk with the rear disks missing. It also does not require as much power. In the Great Plains where I live (western KS) the oneway was phased out as the sweep plow or undercutter became popular, it cuts the roots and does not bury anything. The sweep plow is gradually giving way to no till.

Haas · May 20, 2015

If it would help you any, the part number for the disks is PO 12 314. Maybe one of the part houses that deal in NOS parts would have some. If they do, they will be pricey!

CNKS · May 20, 2015

The disk plow does not pull as hard as a moldboard. Our H would pull 3 disks. So, if the MTA will pull 4 moldboards, it will pull 5 disks. I have never measured, but a statement on this forum a while back said the moldboard had a wider cut--but not much.

dewy · May 21, 2015

i have the two point and it does leave ground rough...also has gauge wheel...wants to pull left ..have not figured it out quite yet....dewy

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