Help! What did I just buy?

670x · Apr 17, 2015

Hi first post here. Needed a tractor and found this on CL.
I think it's a 240. The guy did not know for sure. No markings on the loader.
It runs but needs a full rebuild and a lot of other stuff. I'm planning on getting it ready to move some snow this winter.
I'm to cheap to buy a new one but this is going to be one heck of a project for me.

IH fan · Apr 17, 2015

Sure looks like a 240U, but in the utility version the 340U looks much like it. Check the engine... it should be a C-123 and have a 4 speed transmission.

L.Fure · Apr 17, 2015

(quoted from post at 23:10:18 04/17/15) Hi first post here. Needed a tractor and found this on CL.
I think it's a 240. The guy did not know for sure. No markings on the loader.
It runs but needs a full rebuild and a lot of other stuff. I'm planning on getting it ready to move some snow this winter.
I'm to cheap to buy a new one but this is going to be one heck of a project for me.

How bad does it run? Does it blow any blue smoke out the exhaust? You'll need a snow bucket for the loader. One that is at least as wide as the rear tire width. It also wouldn't hurt to have the rear tires filled with fluid, and buy a set of tire chains.

fastfarmall · Apr 17, 2015

The loader is what has my interest, no name u say, Never seen a farm loader, use that type of movement for the tilt of the bucket.

504 · Apr 17, 2015

Look for a tag on the inside frame facing the tractor, I have seen some hiding there. The trip cyl looks like a hoist from a truck,just smaller.

670x · Apr 17, 2015

This should answer the smoke question. Low compression it looks like. I can't believe it even ran with those plugs .
I did find part of a tag for the loader. "Armhand" so I'm guessing farmhand.
It is a 4 speed witha Rockford clutch and high speed reverse and first. I just found that out by the serial number plate . Tomorrow I'll look up the number.
Thanks for the quick replies.

notjustair · Apr 17, 2015

Soak the cylinders good with ATF for a week and see if that helps. Put some antifowlers on there and run it for one winter.
You may find that the more it is used the better it runs. Don't rush to judgement unless it is fogging for mosquitos or barfing
oil from every seal. It looks to be in pretty good shape overall.

When you have a free weekend I would pull the oil pan and see how the rods and mains feel. If there is lots of slop there
maybe you should bump up the rebuild.

L.Fure · Apr 18, 2015

Was the tractor in continuous use before you bought it, or had it been sitting for some years unused? Do you know when it was last overhauled? This information should be considered before you spend a bunch of money on a rebuild. If the last overhaul hadn't been that long ago, and it sat unused for a time some time you might just be dealing with stuck rings. If that was the case I would change the oil and add a can of seafoam with the oil. If anything can loosen stuck rings seafoam will do it. Give it time to do it's work and see what happens.

670x · Apr 19, 2015

Well its soaking with ATF right now. It's a smoking beast but tonight I'll drain the oil and see what the crank and rods look like. I'm leaning towards new oil and seafoam just for kicks cause it will be a few weeks till I get the rebuild kit.

The guy I bought it from did not know anything about it. He only had it a year, he saw it sitting along a highway with a sign on it so he bought it and realized he was in over his head.

The loader mounting is really jacked up I can see a lot of shade tree wrenching going on with it over the years.

L.Fure · Apr 19, 2015

(quoted from post at 21:25:50 04/19/15)
Well its soaking with ATF right now. It's a smoking beast but tonight I'll drain the oil and see what the crank and rods look like. I'm leaning towards new oil and seafoam just for kicks cause it will be a few weeks till I get the rebuild kit.

The guy I bought it from did not know anything about it. He only had it a year, he saw it sitting along a highway with a sign on it so he bought it and realized he was in over his head.

The loader mounting is really jacked up I can see a lot of shade tree wrenching going on with it over the years.

Don't follow the instructions on the seafoam can for use in the crank case. Just dump a full can in on top of the fresh oil. It may take more than a week to loosen up stuck rings, unless you take it out and run it hard during that week. Dump a can of seafoam in the gas tank too. Then let us know what the results are later on.

Farm loaders usually are broke up a bit from ruff use. Going over it and fixing any broken welds will help it out a lot.

mkirsch · Apr 20, 2015

It's definitely a 240. You can see the hex rear axle housings in the picture, and the fender is clamped on.

A 340 has square rear axle housings and the fender bolts to the top.

670x · Apr 20, 2015

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Any chance there is supposed to be a crossmember under the loader here? It kinda flops around a little and I think it might help if it had one

mkirsch · Apr 20, 2015

Never seen a loader like that, not even a farmhand, so I don't know. It probably wouldn't hurt to have one.

For sure do not continue to use the loader if it "flops." That is a good way to make your tractor into a nice pile of busted pieces laying in a puddle of oil on the ground.

Odds are most every bolted-together joint on the loader is stretched and loose. You may need to pull bolts out and add washers to get enough pull to tighten things up. You may need to drill out and tap holes for larger bolts where they are stripped out.

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