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L.Fure

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I have a replacement steering gear box coming for my 340 utility. As you may remember we came to the conclusion that there is a broken tooth on one of the internal parts, which causes the right front wheel to steer a little crazy. I was told that this steering system is a weak link in this tractor, which tells me the problem with a broken gear may happen to the replacement gear box. I'm thinking of retrofitting a steering stabilizer to the steering rods. I'd have to put one on each side since the front wheels operate independently of each other. Am I being too cautious? Will steering stabilizers prevent this from happening again?
 
NO , the problem is due to either hitting something really hard with one of the ft. wheels or when used in loader work on rough ground and hitting something . I have repaired two of those style steering boxes in the past by drilling and tapping 1/4 inch hard bolts in where the broken tooth was then welding over the bolts with a special rod then having the tooth reground . Or milled . Is it perfect WELLLLL it works . Lets put it that way , does it hold up , sofar the two that i did have not come back to haunt me and like i told the customers it is guaranteed with a 5 and 50 , five seconds or fifty feet what ever comes first.
 
(quoted from post at 17:03:22 04/06/15) NO , the problem is due to either hitting something really hard with one of the ft. wheels or when used in loader work on rough ground and hitting something . I have repaired two of those style steering boxes in the past by drilling and tapping 1/4 inch hard bolts in where the broken tooth was then welding over the bolts with a special rod then having the tooth reground . Or milled . Is it perfect WELLLLL it works . Lets put it that way , does it hold up , sofar the two that i did have not come back to haunt me and like i told the customers it is guaranteed with a 5 and 50 , five seconds or fifty feet what ever comes first.
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Around here we call that a two part warranty. If you drop it, and it breaks in two, you now own two parts. :lol:

I'm beginning to regret buying this tractor. Now I'm going to be afraid of using it.
 
There's a distinct difference between use and abuse. What tractor vet describes is abuse, someone charging around with the tractor like "Roger Ramjet."

Remember "weak spots" on old IH tractors are those things that break after years of abject ABUSE.
 
Ah no it did not even have to be abuse . They broke losts of them on loader backhoes of the day . There were a lot of them that broke loading out manure . My buddy's brother broke his going up on the trailer when his ft. tire had to make the three inch jump at the end of the ramps. . Hitting a dead furrow while plowing just wright would do it . I did the weld thing because i could NOT find any replacement parts anywhere . even the old Ford tractors would break them . I know what your going to say WELL I NEVER BROKE ONE . You just lucked out . Over the years of buying and selling i have seen many 300-460 utilitys setting in the dead row because of broken steering . My one friend who him , his dad and brother ran and I H parts yard said they could sell a dozen good steering boxes a week for them IF THEY COULD FIND THEM.
 
(quoted from post at 19:21:26 04/06/15) Ah no it did not even have to be abuse . They broke losts of them on loader backhoes of the day . There were a lot of them that broke loading out manure . My buddy's brother broke his going up on the trailer when his ft. tire had to make the three inch jump at the end of the ramps. . Hitting a dead furrow while plowing just wright would do it . I did the weld thing because i could NOT find any replacement parts anywhere . even the old Ford tractors would break them . I know what your going to say WELL I NEVER BROKE ONE . You just lucked out . Over the years of buying and selling i have seen many 300-460 utilitys setting in the dead row because of broken steering . My one friend who him , his dad and brother ran and I H parts yard said they could sell a dozen good steering boxes a week for them IF THEY COULD FIND THEM.
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Kub6040 suggested swapping the front bolster and steering from a Farmall 340. I'll sell the tractor before it comes to that. I sure would hate it if the steering broke in the middle of the winter, with no other tractor to keep the driveway cleared.
 
(quoted from post at 11:51:55 04/06/15)
(quoted from post at 19:21:26 04/06/15) Ah no it did not even have to be abuse . They broke losts of them on loader backhoes of the day . There were a lot of them that broke loading out manure . My buddy's brother broke his going up on the trailer when his ft. tire had to make the three inch jump at the end of the ramps. . Hitting a dead furrow while plowing just wright would do it . I did the weld thing because i could NOT find any replacement parts anywhere . even the old Ford tractors would break them . I know what your going to say WELL I NEVER BROKE ONE . You just lucked out . Over the years of buying and selling i have seen many 300-460 utilitys setting in the dead row because of broken steering . My one friend who him , his dad and brother ran and I H parts yard said they could sell a dozen good steering boxes a week for them IF THEY COULD FIND THEM.
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Kub6040 suggested swapping the front bolster and steering from a Farmall 340. I'll sell the tractor before it comes to that. I sure would hate it if the steering broke in the middle of the winter, with no other tractor to keep the driveway cleared.
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Just a thought here, and I may be way out in left field, but what are the possibilities of adapting a full hydraulic steering system to one of those tractors. Completely eliminate the weak, troublesome gear boxes?
 
(quoted from post at 20:02:17 04/06/15)
(quoted from post at 11:51:55 04/06/15)
(quoted from post at 19:21:26 04/06/15) Ah no it did not even have to be abuse . They broke losts of them on loader backhoes of the day . There were a lot of them that broke loading out manure . My buddy's brother broke his going up on the trailer when his ft. tire had to make the three inch jump at the end of the ramps. . Hitting a dead furrow while plowing just wright would do it . I did the weld thing because i could NOT find any replacement parts anywhere . even the old Ford tractors would break them . I know what your going to say WELL I NEVER BROKE ONE . You just lucked out . Over the years of buying and selling i have seen many 300-460 utilitys setting in the dead row because of broken steering . My one friend who him , his dad and brother ran and I H parts yard said they could sell a dozen good steering boxes a week for them IF THEY COULD FIND THEM.
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Kub6040 suggested swapping the front bolster and steering from a Farmall 340. I'll sell the tractor before it comes to that. I sure would hate it if the steering broke in the middle of the winter, with no other tractor to keep the driveway cleared.
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Just a thought here, and I may be way out in left field, but what are the possibilities of adapting a full hydraulic steering system to one of those tractors. Completely eliminate the weak, troublesome gear boxes?
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Using the front bolster and steering from a Farmall 340 would work, but I really don't want tp spend anymore money on this tractor.

I was thinking a steering stabilizer should absorb any shock to the steering gear if a front wheel took a hard knock. But that's probably just a pipe dream.
 
No reason to be afraid of it. They do fail, but look at the age and hours it took for that
to happen. I have rebuilt or repaired mine twice, but it has a loader on it,and god knows
how many hours of abuse since my father bought it in 1967 and I'm still using it on a
regular basis.
 
jackson Power Steering has kits that make it far better than new. But taking reasonable prudent care to not run into things that have no possible give is best. jim
 
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