Another Problem I'm Working On.

L.Fure

Well-known Member
If you look at the picture, I have attached, you can see a short lever with a black handle. This is the lever that is used to raise and lower the fast hitch. The problem with it is it's hard to reach while I lean back to see where my hitch arms are while backing up to an implement. The rod laying next to it is attached to the draft control linkage that is on the tractor. This would be ideal to use since the control lever is on the right hand side of the seat and easier to reach. The one problem to make it work is that the hydraulic lever isn't what is used for the draft control. As you can see I have two lines drawn onto the rod. I used this so I could see what the rod did in relation to the lever. The way the draft control is supposed to work is you move the lever beside the seat to set the height, or depth you want the hitch to be. When the hitch reaches the desired depth the linkage is supposed to shut off the valve. When I move the lever so that the rod would push the lever ahead to activate the hydraulic lift. Then I push the lever ahead to see what the rod does in correlation with the lifting of the hitch. I thought that the rod/linkage would move to disengage the hydraulic lever when it reached the height I had the side lever adjusted to. But the rod keeps moving forward, and not back like I thought it would. I'm sure I'm missing something here, but I can't quite figure out what it is. I even clamped the rod to the lever to see it that would work, but the rod doesn't move the lever far enough to activate the hydraulics. Anyone have any ideas?
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You didn't say what tractor that is, but apparently it is a utility. If so the lever goes by the seat. It looks like the connections are broken, lost or something and instead of linkage someone used just a lever attached directly to the valve instead of to the linkage.
 
(quoted from post at 02:42:58 03/20/15) You didn't say what tractor that is, but apparently it is a utility. If so the lever goes by the seat. It looks like the connections are broken, lost or something and instead of linkage someone used just a lever attached directly to the valve instead of to the linkage.
All the linkage is there. All except that rod in the picture. I made that.
 
(quoted from post at 15:01:57 03/20/15) Here is the control that is supposed to operate the fast hitch on a 340. It is mounted to the right of the seat:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Farmall-340...pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d2f558810

Do you have this?

Someone welded a long handle to your valve in the picture. It should have a very short arm, part #7 shown here:

http://partstore.caseih.com/us/LambWebsterNorthJava/parts-search.html#epc::mr59113ar792373

I do have what is on the eBay listing. I don't think the handle was welded on. It looks like a OEM part. I'm thinking the valve/handle got switched in the past. I wonder if I made a lever, like the one listed as #7 in the parts listing, the system would work like it should? But, I also think that hooking the rod up to the present lever should work and it doesn't. If I made a short video of what I described in my first post, would that help out?
 
Yup, just saw the video.

As I said in the other thread, I think that is the wrong type of valve.

The tel-a-depth valve on my 240, which IIRC is the same part as the 340, is spring loaded such that when I disconnected the linkage, the lever snaps fully forward. The linkage to the control holds it back. It also doesn't "latch" into a detent like the one you show in your video.

Frankly, I would just figure out a way to extend that lever so I can operate it and still see the hitch. That's the simplest and least expensive solution.
 
Mmm, no.

It has a selector for single and double acting. The correct tel-a-depth valve doesn't have that.
 
(quoted from post at 23:06:27 03/20/15) Mmm, no.

It has a selector for single and double acting. The correct tel-a-depth valve doesn't have that.

Then this person is advertising the wrong part. I'd still like to find one. Here's another option I'm thinking about. Maybe I could find a hydra-touch lever set up and use that to raise and lower the hitch. (?)
 
I have a 340 that I will take some pictures of
for you to show you what it looks like.

The one question that comes to me when I look
at your picture is this: what is the pipe going
left to right as you would sit in the seat,
that is between your shifter and the dash sheet
metal?

The shaft that you have made is in the same
position as what is on mine that comes from
under the seat and attaches to the rest of the
controls from what Matt has posted from flea
bay.

Edward
 
(quoted from post at 19:23:24 03/22/15) I have a 340 that I will take some pictures of
for you to show you what it looks like.

The one question that comes to me when I look
at your picture is this: what is the pipe going
left to right as you would sit in the seat,
that is between your shifter and the dash sheet
metal?

The shaft that you have made is in the same
position as what is on mine that comes from
under the seat and attaches to the rest of the
controls from what Matt has posted from flea
bay.

Edward

Edward,

That pipe is the hydraulic return coming from the loader control valve. This tractor never had a hydra-touch system on it. It most likely was ordered, from a dealer, to have a loader on it. The tractor has yellow paint under the red. It could have been sold to a small municipality (township, village) for loading trucks with sand or gravel to be spread on the roads in the winter. It's just my guess, but it does seem plausible.
 

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