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sandman2234

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I am considering the purchase of an international t6 crawler. I was wondering just what a person could use a T6 crawler for, without having to spend a huge amount of money buying implements designed for a pull behind operation. I know plowing can be done with the T6, but I don't do much farming.
I have not seen this crawler, except in a single picture.
Are loaders or dozer blades available for this T6 in the used market?
Do T6 crawlers have pto's, which would allow a pull behind Bush hog to be pulled?
My dear bride thinks this might be a good idea, simply to have it around to pull my other vehicles out when I get them stuck. I was wondering just how hard is it to get a crawler stuck?
The crawler probably won't get much regular work, probably a joy ride every few weeks, so how much added maintenance am I going to be looking at with the infrequent use of the crawler?
I tried on several occasions to buy an Allis Chalmers M Crawler, but they typically tend to be located in places nowhere near Florida, and this one has materialized right in my back yard, so I may have to give International a chance. It will be the first red equipment on this property, as I have had most of the other colors.
It will also be my first tracked piece of equipment, so I am sure if the deal goes thru, I will be asking plenty of questions.
Thanks, David from jax
 
If it is not equipped with a blade now, don't do it. They are not often equipped with a PTO, but they can be. It will be a real chore to install one. They do not run a mower satisfactorily. they tear up the ground on corners and mash the grass/weeds so profoundly ahead of the mower that the mower will not cut them leaving radical regrowth in the track paths. Pulling is its strong suit. Pulling stuck machines out is easy for the tracked T6. It has an M Farmall motor in it if it is old, or a 6 cylinder if newer. Undercarrage condition is the deal breaker. Have someone local (with expertise) look at the tracks, rails, sprockets, and bogies. Way too much money will be spent on a worn out set of tracks to justify the purchase. It will use radical amounts of gasoline. Steering clutches, track brakes, and master clutch are also check points. Jim
 
Thanks for the quick reply Jim!
One of the things I do most is take care of a dirt road owned by my sister in law. The addition of a blade would make the T6 a more useable tool in that department, so I am curious why NOT to install a blade IF I could find one.
I understand the answer about pulling a Bush hog mower, and my interests in that aspect might be a little different, only in that I am looking for a way to mow around a pond that has some pretty good sized washes that tend to be hard on a two wheel drive tractor,which is what I use to mow as close to the waters edge as I can. If I drop the rear wheels into a wash, it usually goes down and starts spinning, and usually requires something to pull it out.
A crawler will span those washes, and if it can handle soft ground along the water edge, then it might be a great improvement over the walk behind that the church rents to mow the edge of the pond.
Thanks, David from jax
 
If it has hydraulics and valving for a blade it might not be difficult. finding a T6 or TD6 blade might be harder than you think. I have many hours on a dozer (TD20) with a fixed blade. They do not make smooth roads. A hydro angled tilt blade will work, but even more difficult to find. Getting a location and price on a blade for it, and getting seriously straight talk on the condition of the undercarriage is first priority. It is a big machine. It will not be transportable easily as it will weigh much more than a PU will tow. Filling in the small washes with riprap, and backfilling with soil is a better plan than using a too big dozer. Jim
 
Jim, you do sound like you know what you're talking about! Filling the washes is the preferred method, but the company that dug the pond probably should have made the banks less steep. With the water run-off from about six acres going into the pond, it doesnt have much of a chance not to wash out. They have plans for the pond edges to be tapered which should help with washing. Doesn't help with the mowing down to the edge of the pond...
Finding a T6 or TD6 with a complete bucket or blade setup might be a problem, few of them are in this area, and worn out ones probably prevail, no doubt!
I was thinking a T6 probably weighs in at around 3.5-4 tons, a weight not beyond the legal capabilities of my pickup and trailer, but thanks for adding that, as it is often overlooked.
I will have another gentleman crawler owner with me when I ride over to look it over, so hopefully we can figure out what kind of shape the T6 is in and not miss too much.
Thanks,David from jax
 
My first advice would be to leave it where it is. That being said, check out the undercarriage very carefully. It is very costly to repair and if it is worn badly you may have trouble keeping the tracks on. Been there done that.
 
Do you do your own firewood? Crawlers are good for getting trees pulled out even in swampy woods. A friend of mine has a Oliver(OC3 if I recall) that he uses in the woods says it works great for that. There are 3 trac-tractors on the farm here. A T20: needs work, T6 :heavy blade/ loader(to big to get in woods descent) for pushing piles/ leveling driveway, and a TD6 (w/PTO) bought for parts, now on list to get back together and running.
 
(quoted from post at 00:46:09 12/27/14) Do you do your own firewood? Crawlers are good for getting trees pulled out even in swampy woods. A friend of mine has a Oliver(OC3 if I recall) that he uses in the woods says it works great for that. There are 3 trac-tractors on the farm here. A T20: needs work, T6 :heavy blade/ loader(to big to get in woods descent) for pushing piles/ leveling driveway, and a TD6 (w/PTO) bought for parts, now on list to get back together and running.
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I do a little bit of firewood from time to time, but none is done from my property. I have sources for firewood of a better grade oak then grows on my property. I also have no use for firewood, other then an occasional fire in the fire ring in the back yard. I just like cutting firewood.
The area to the east of me has a creek running thru it, and is extremely low and swampy in places. From time to time people tend to spend half the night trying to get a vehicle unstuck that they thought would just skim right across that mud. Would be nice to get a little more sleep on some of those nights if the crawler handles that bog well enough to bring out another vehicle with it. If equipped with a pto, I will probably hang an old Braden pto winch on some sort of bracket for the rear. The winch has a reverse lever so the pto won't need to be reversible. Might make getting it out of low places easier. If it doesn't have a pto, Cory...expect an email about yours, lol.
My wife's cousin has an OS3 that he rebuilt from bottom to top, and it is a work of art. Not much for playing in the mud, but it does make a few shows and he enjoys that.
The lost part of this topic refers to me being an Allis guy and trying to find my way around red paint.
Thanks for making me feel welcome!
David from jax
 
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They weigh about 8,500 lbs with blade and can be moved with a one ton truck
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More than likely any blade you'll find will be attached to another T6, and you might well be better off buying that T6 instead of this one and going through all the work of transferring the blade over.

A crawler will go more places than a wheeled vehicle, but the fact that it's harder to get stuck makes it harder to get UNstuck! Once that thing's buried, you may as well get the shovel and finish the job. It's not coming out with anything you've got. We're talking hiring a contractor with a bigger dozer or an excavator to get it out.
 
(quoted from post at 22:15:52 12/25/14) I am considering the purchase of an international t6 crawler. I was wondering just what a person could use a T6 crawler for, without having to spend a huge amount of money buying implements designed for a pull behind operation. I know plowing can be done with the T6, but I don't do much farming.
I have not seen this crawler, except in a single picture.
Are loaders or dozer blades available for this T6 in the used market?
Do T6 crawlers have pto's, which would allow a pull behind Bush hog to be pulled?
My dear bride thinks this might be a good idea, simply to have it around to pull my other vehicles out when I get them stuck. I was wondering just how hard is it to get a crawler stuck?
The crawler probably won't get much regular work, probably a joy ride every few weeks, so how much added maintenance am I going to be looking at with the infrequent use of the crawler?
I tried on several occasions to buy an Allis Chalmers M Crawler, but they typically tend to be located in places nowhere near Florida, and this one has materialized right in my back yard, so I may have to give International a chance. It will be the first red equipment on this property, as I have had most of the other colors.
It will also be my first tracked piece of equipment, so I am sure if the deal goes thru, I will be asking plenty of questions.
Thanks, David from jax
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If it runs ok and the UC is decent you will like it. At least it is a gasoline engine .Stay away from a TD6 though. That engine is a nightmare. You should be able to put some sort of a blade on it.
A T6 is a nice sized machine. Heck you can easily rig up a hydraulic lift system.
 

I saw this one today in the rain, didn't get a chance to fire it up.
No pto on the rear...didn't like that! Anybody got a parts T6 with a pto that might want to part with those parts?
David from jax
 
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