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Buddy seat in a 86 series cab.

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dmiller

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Looked at a 1486 today. Has a few issues I'm curious about but the main one is where my boys will sit when they take turns riding with me.
Was wondering if any of you had grown up in one, or had riders in one?

Other issues:
Has a leaking cylinder in the area below the brake pedals. Was told this was a transmission break?
Seems to be hard to get out of gear. I will be using it with a 530JD round baler (no kicker) and will be shifting into reverse a lot.
TA does nothing. Owner said to only test it on the flat, he was worried that it might freewheel on a hill. Can the ones from this era even do that, I thought that was only an issue with the early TAs in the mid 60's and older.
 
You're going to get a lot of flak on this one. Having riders along in a tractor without a buddy seat is something the "safety nazis" don't take lightly, and the only buddy seat that is any good is a factory buddy seat.

Basically, you'll get a lot of "don't do it," so in an nutshell, you're on your own.

I've ridden as a passenger in an 86 series cab as a much younger, much smaller individual, and it is not pleasant. You have to kind of wedge yourself in the space above and behind the shift levers, while still allowing the operator to access the shift levers.
 
There was a man on here a few days / week ago that had his 3-year old riding with him, get off or fall off, and get killed in rotating machinery. Beyond horrible. I think we've all had our kids ride, but I never will again, never. Absolutely never. Ride with pop on a riding lawnmower, maybe OK, but never a tractor.
 
There are no provision/place for a 'buddy seat' on an 86.A kid could get by behind the shifters.A bigger person,not so much.Sounds like the TA is OUT.Read money.That tractor is a 'mechanic's speacial'.If you cant fix it yourself,pass it by. "Run Forrest Run"!
 
My 706 would do that before I put a new TA in it.Pull the handle back and it would coast to a stop.And it would roll down a 'hill' as if it were in neutral(in low)It eventially got to slipping in HI,too.
 
The guys have it covered pretty well. The only thing I will add is a IH 86 series is not a good baler tractor. The shifter is a PIA to use. If you move much at all in neutral you will have a hard time getting it into any gear.

As for the TA it is shot. If you can't do the work your looking at $3500-5000 to have it repaired. That is depending how much is broke/worn when you get in there.

The leaking cylinder in the cab is a clutch assist cylinder. It makes the clutch push easier if the tractor is running. The clutch on a IH 1486 or 1586 can be a real hard push for a smaller or older person. Some have real hard time holding the clutch down for the neutral start switch to work.

All in all is sounds like this tractor has a lot of issues. Unless your wanting to do the work yourself and the tractor is cheap then I would pass it by. You can buy a good running one cheaper than one you have to pay to have repaired.
 
Friend, customer of mine has been using his 1086 on at least five different round balers over the last 30 years. Gets along fine with it. It boils down to weather you like IH tractors or not. Another friend of mine had an 806. One of the guys he was picking corn with, many years ago, had a 4020 Deere. He ended up in the dark out in the field, said I couldn't figure out how to shift that dad gum John Deere so I walked home. Matter of what you like and what you are used to. I can shift either just fine, unless they are misadjusted or worn out.
 
I have a 1586 I like a lot. No room for two in the cab. I don't need anyone getting in my way. On occasion the dog will ride in the back window if it is shut and latched.
 
The brake master cylinders are on the engine side of the cab above the brake pedals. The clutch booster is in the same location on the left side of the cab. A cylinder leaking under the brake pedals is probably an auxiliary valve.

The transmission brake is internal in the bottom of the speed transmission.

There was a change in the park lock pawl and spring on the later tractors to make it a bit easier to get out of park. Later tractors also had an additional safety start switch on the park lock linkage allowing the engine to be started when in park without having to depress the clutch pedal.

The TA doing nothing when shifted could well be a problem with the cable. Either a locating clamp comes loose or the end of the cable or linkage is broken. An improperly adjusted clutch, transmission brake, or TA dump valve can all make the transmission hard to shift.
 
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