Loading super a and h on my trailer

sony224422 · Aug 2, 2014

I was curious to what you guys would do in this situation. I have a 20 foot plus 5 beaver tail gooseneck and want to load both tractors. I test loaded them and only drove back road about 5 miles like this, not sure if I like it. When end is heavier on each tractor? Like is the a heavier in the front and the h heavier in the rear? Should I try backing the h on or is this looking the best.

Anonymous-0 · Aug 2, 2014

If they were mine, I would back the H on and drive the A on facing the front. Both tractors will probably be heavier on the rear--especially if any ballast in the tires.

rustyfarmall · Aug 2, 2014

Looks like about the only way it can be done. If you were hauling JUST the H, or JUST the A, you would still load them pointing forward, but with the rear axle of the tractor centered between the trailer axles. You get a MUCH smoother ride that way.

Either of those tractors is heavier on the rear. Rule of thumb is approximately 70% of the tractors weight is on the rear, and 30% on the front.

souNdguy · Aug 2, 2014

i agree with rustyfarmall. you are pretty close to as good as you can get. having hte H backed on, and keeping the weight right might put the front ont he beaver a lil bit. wouldn't be a deal killer.. but probably wouldn't make much difference either.

good thing it is a gooseneck.. looks like the truck is taking it ok.

DeltaRed · Aug 2, 2014

I think you have it about perfect....

sony224422 · Aug 2, 2014

Thanks guys, I wasn't sure if maybe I should back up the h and see if I can get the rear tires over the axles like I do when I move it by itself

The a looks so little by itself

I may back it on just to see what it looks like but it sure is close and a little scary putting both on. The truck seems to handle it alright, little slow getting moving but stops and handles okay. I estimate I'm near the 10,500 mark with front weights on the a and I think the h has ballast tires along with the weights. I need to find a scale and weigh everything.

Ron in Can · Aug 2, 2014

I think wd9 is right I would put the H on first then the A a friend last yr was taking a modified pulling tractor to a pull and it was rear heavy and it starting swaying and it swapped ends on him and boy it left some nasty marks on the road.

IAtractorKid · Aug 2, 2014

Personally I would back them both on. Two reasons, I
think having the rear wheels of the H in front of
the axles is going to pull/ride better and IMHO its
much safer to back them on. If for whatever reason
you pop the clutch while driving one up, your more
than likely going over backwards.

sflem849 · Aug 2, 2014

I would back them on. If nothing else I would back the H on. I like the way they unload better.

sony224422 · Aug 2, 2014

I may try this to see how much better it ride. And yes inching up the trailer is a little scary. I am not thinking I'd like the h on first because I think there would be too much pin weight in the bed (over and on the rear truck axle). I have put the h all the way up and the truck sags a lot. I just fear overloading the truck axle.

uncle henry · Aug 3, 2014

i would load it the way i felt most comfortable that
being said i have drove, backed, and drove them up
the side just what ever i needed to do to get
everything on my trailer

Jim Becker · Aug 3, 2014

The best comment in this whole thread is your own statement about running it over a scale. You have about 700 pounds just in wheel weights. If your H has loaded tires, they could add that much more. Until you weigh it, everyone is just guessing. Load up both tractors like your first picture and see what you have on each axle. I've gotten to where I stop at the first CAT scale whenever I am going more than a local trip.

I have a trailer very similar to yours, except it is 6 feet longer. My biggest challenge is to get enough weight on the trailer axles and not too much on the pin. Running the tractors on frontwards with the heaviest on the rear gets the weight as far back as possible. I have frequently backed the rear tractor onto the loading ramps to get the weight farther back.

Gary Mitchell · Aug 3, 2014

I"ve hauled an A and a 77 Oliver together a lot. I back the A on and cut it to the side at the last moment, then drive the 77 on pulling the front beside the front of the A. Loading this way gives me more room to play with in getting it loaded right weight-wise.

KevinBfromIllinois · Aug 3, 2014

Is that a 1/2 or 3/4 ton truck just asking I have a F150 and like the idea of a 5th wheel better than my ball hitch trailer, and how much weight can you hall with yours either way.

sony224422 · Aug 3, 2014

(quoted from post at 09:09:07 08/03/14) Is that a 1/2 or 3/4 ton truck just asking I have a F150 and like the idea of a 5th wheel better than my ball hitch trailer, and how much weight can you hall with yours either way.

3/4 ton and bumper pull is 10,400 for my truck, gooseneck isn't published. I stay around that though.

And thanks guys, I will have to get to a scale to see what I'm really dealing with, but I think I may be backing the h on and seeing how that goes, my trailer seems to have the axles back pretty far which isn't a bad thing. I just got it a month ago, so far I know I'll never go back to hauling anything heavy on a bumper pull. So much smoother and easier to deal with

caseman-d · Aug 3, 2014

Since it looks like you have a 1/2t vehicle I would load the lighter one first. Trailer should handle twice the weight you have. I have hauled two 8500lb tractors on mine, just depends how far you are going. Here is a picture of how not to load some tractors. I think I should have backed the last tractor on?

J.Wondergem · Aug 3, 2014

Caseman, on my triaxle, I back the first one on.

sony224422 · Aug 3, 2014

Hey it's a 3/4t haha!

And how do you guys get the rear tires on the ramps? I couldn't figure out how to do it

Redturbo · Aug 3, 2014

There is a loading ramp behind the trailer, image the 3 tractors were just driven on.

Dean Olson · Aug 4, 2014

I have a similar set up. 06 Dodge 2500 Cummins mega cab
with 20' + 5' dovetail.

I drive my Super C on and back the Super H on. Once ramps
are up I pull the SH back so the front wheels are on the
dovetail. In effect moving the load further back than what your
doing.

This gets my axle weights more evenly distributed and tongue
weight lighter. Keeps my truck from squatting too much.

Your on the right track, get to a scales that will show your axle weights.

sony224422 · Aug 4, 2014

(quoted from post at 05:38:11 08/04/14) I have a similar set up. 06 Dodge 2500 Cummins mega cab
with 20' + 5' dovetail.

I drive my Super C on and back the Super H on. Once ramps
are up I pull the SH back so the front wheels are on the
dovetail. In effect moving the load further back than what your
doing.

This gets my axle weights more evenly distributed and tongue
weight lighter. Keeps my truck from squatting too much.

Your on the right track, get to a scales that will show your axle weights.

Does the super c weigh more than the a? I only ask because I don't seem to squat too badly. My Trailer is 5200 lbs empty but seems the axles are farther back the old trailer is used. Seems to help a lot

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