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Muffler height Super C

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JakeBrakeIH

07-07-2014 19:25:06
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Was able to put some hours on my Super C this past weekend and would like to raise the muffler on it. The bottom of the muffler essentially sits almost on the hood and I tend to eat exhaust all day. My other tractors have the pipe much higher out of the hood. If I recall, the manifold is just 2" pipe thread correct?

I am concerned that if I try to remove that piece of pipe that I will damage a perfectly good manifold. Am I overlooking a simple solution? Don't want to add pipe to the top of the muffler, just thinking out loud for what others have done.
This post was edited by JakeBrakeIH at 19:25:52 07/07/14.

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mike1972chev

07-08-2014 17:57:32
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
If you wanted to "cheat" and get by simple,just leave your original pipe in the manifold and add a "stubb" of a piece of exhaust tubing on top of it. Just long enough to keep the bottom of muffler off of the hood.

Then,if needed,you can also add to the top of the muffler outlet as well with a short piece??

Not the MOST professional way,but would keep you from having to twist that old pipe out and take a chance on breaking threads. ;)

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atilathehun99

07-08-2014 08:26:18
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
When you do get it out replace it with stainless. I did that years ago and any time I've wanted to remove it it's turned right out. In fact if there is any problem at all it's keeping the stainless pipe tight enough in the manifold.



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Atilathehun99

07-08-2014 17:26:05
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to atilathehun99, 07-08-2014 08:26:18  
Plus, the stainless pipe doesn't rust into and bond to the muffler itself making it easy to take them apart when necessary.



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ericlb

07-08-2014 05:31:57
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
hope you can get it out, i have a similer problem on a cub but when i bought it the pipe had cracked, the previous owner had welded it to the manifold 14295 times so its a mess, and it wont hold, i lucked out and got a parts cub of similer vintage out of a fire, the manifold is perfect, but the attaching bolts on my tractor are corroded beyond usable, not sure why that is, when the parts tractor went thru a fire and they just unscrewed, and when i tried to remove one on my running cub the stud broke, i stopped as this will have to be a winter project im reasonable sure the rest will break too which means long tedious hours drilling out broken bolts....

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mkirsch

07-08-2014 04:50:46
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
Yup, you can't just slap a pipe wrench on the thing and reef away. That's a good way to sell yourself a new manifold.

Likely it's rusted in there solid.

Under normal circumstances you wait until there's basically nothing left of the pipe, then use a cold chisel to collapse it in away from the threads, and peel the pieces out with a needle nose vise grips. Clean the threads, chase them with a tap if you have one, and install the new pipe.

The other guys have you covered if the pipe is in good shape.

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gene bender

07-08-2014 03:55:54
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
Removing the old pipe coming out of the manifold can be tricky. Useing a torch they can be removed so you can put a new longer on. You will need a tap to chase the threads after removal. You can get new pipe any place just make sure its around 8in long then the muffler wont set on the hood and it will fit better. I just did one the other day.



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D beatty

07-07-2014 22:26:01
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
If pipe in manifold is good I would do as Handyman said and go to muffler shop and have them make you up an extension to the length you want and they can make one up in just a few minutes.



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Handyman

07-07-2014 21:16:43
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
Instead of going to all the work of removing the pipe and installing a longer one, why not just go to a muffler shop and have them make you an extension pipe to put on top of the muffler?



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ken house

07-07-2014 20:52:33
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
when you cut off old pipe, it may work a bit better if you cut it a quarter inch or so above manifold. this gives you a piece of old pipe to work with when you drive it inwards.

or you could have someone weld a piece of pipe ,on to the existing pipe.



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Notjustair

07-07-2014 20:49:59
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
Grab a pipe wrench and turn it very gently. The one in my M turned right out. I was shocked to say the least.



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farmallhal

07-07-2014 19:44:19
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
The threads in the manifold are 1 1/2" pipe thread. Generally a piece of threaded pipe about 10" long screws into the manifold and the muffler is clamped to this extension pipe somewhat above the hood. The correct muffler for a Super C is IH p/n. 360720R91 which has an overall length of 29". My Super C is restored with these original components and I was not bothered with the exhaust as I used it last week for a couple of days raking hay. You might have one of those shorter clearance mufflers like I have on a 140 for mowing under tree limbs with the belly mower. With the right components I think you will find your Super C very compatible with your needs for decent air to breath, Hal.

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FBH44

07-07-2014 19:32:47
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 Re: Muffler height Super C in reply to JakeBrakeIH, 07-07-2014 19:25:06  
I did that, the pipe unthreaded with heat / tapping / PB Blaster / ATF / more heat.
That might be your easiest way, just install a longer pipe.



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