Aren't Farmers/Mechanics Funny?

VTHokieAg

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I bought an International B-275 Diesel that was my grandfathers since the 70's and he is now passed. He was a mechanic for over 50 years and owned his own business. He was one of the old timers that really knew how to work on about everything. Right before he died he rebuilt the engine on a John Deere 410B backhoe.

Anyways, I grew up on his farm and as long as I can remember the glow plug system on his B-275 never worked and he ALWAYS used ether to start it. I just bought 15 acres and have been working at getting this tractor in good mechanical condition and one of the things on the list was getting the glow plug system working. I didn't know what to expect as far as if the wiring was even there or anything about the system other than it has never worked in my remembrance.

I ordered 4 new Champion CH28 glow plugs to start there and put them in last night. Literally, I held down the switch, waited until the indicator glowed red (indicator resistor worked which was a good thing), and hit the starter and she fired right up on a cold start. It NEVER would start cold prior to this without ether.

There are several things to take away from this. 1) My granddad knew using ether was probably not good for the engine being he was a mechanic but everything he did to his own equipment was to get it going in the moment and never "took it into the shop" to really fix things. 2) I got all 4 glow plugs off ebay for $19. Think about how many cans of ether at $3-$5 a can was used over the last 30 years when all it needed was $19 of glow plugs.

I am glad that long term use of ether has not damaged this engine. I read on here that on some occasions if ether was used for long term once you get the glow plugs working the engine might not start without ether. Luckily this is not the case here and she fires right up!
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Either, if used accordingly doesn't hurt a motor. Either, if used in a excess amount does break ring lands etc. The old guy obviously knew what he was doing with the stuff. I had a neighbour years ago had a MF245 and he had to give it a little either to get it to start, he said it was that way from new, his MF235 never needed either.
 
Funny thing, Most of the tractors on our farm have a Factory installed starting aide, consisting of a electrically operated either injection system. IH, Case, Deere all of em.. never hurt one of them ever. Like any tool if its used correctly it does its job, used incorrectly it does damage. The outcome is directly controlled by the user
 
That is funny,I got a 414B from a buddy a few years ago th same way.He told me you need to give it a shot for starting.Got looking at it one day & noticed the glow plugs & no wires to them anymore.Its on the to do list.
 
Sometimes we just put off fixing something or painting a house until we want to sell it.
 
Hi
Just to give you some perspective here, The guy was a good mechanic for 50 years. This tells me he was probably so busy fixing everybody else"s stuff he didn"t have much time for his own .

I fix here and farm a bit to. my stuff never gets little annoying stuff sorted until it quits, and don"t run anymore or a wheel falls off. Services get done and oil gets changed as it should thats a good money investment, and quick to do in a quiet couple hours. Customers only care about them, not what your own problems are with time and your stuff!.
I would say he probably had this plug issue way before ebay/ computers and cheap $19 replacements.
How much were replacements from a dealer in the day, and maybe a guy couldn"t get them if they were NLA at some point when the problem happened.
Just a few things to bear in mind here from what I see and if he was happy the way it was, then that was his choice.
Sorry to hear he passed, A lot of great information on old equipment is gone forever.
Glad to hear you got the tractor and are preserving the history for a few more years
Regards Robert
 

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