Needing info on International Industrial M

highcropwife · May 12, 2014

I have an International Industrial M (Yellow) and would like information regarding it. It has been partially restored.

DeltaRed · May 13, 2014

Like what kind of info? be a bit more spicific.
Slideing rear axle,or fixed.Non adustable wide
front?....Pics,please.

highcropwife · May 13, 2014

I'm sorry for the lack of information. I am not that knowledgeable about tractors. What little I know, is from my late husband's love of old tractors. I am considering selling this tractor but need some idea what its value would be. As it has sentimental value, it has taken us some time to be ready to start this process. The serial number is FBK 191334 X1. At this time I have been unsuccessful in adding photos, but have contacted support to correct this problem.
https://photos.yesterdaystractors.com/gallery/identify/c52214.jpg

dej(Jed) · May 13, 2014

(quoted from post at 21:18:00 05/12/14) I have an International Industrial M (Yellow) and would like information regarding it. It has been partially restored.

Nothing special that I know of. I had a yellow one one time and painted it red.

Matt E. · May 13, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:40:45 05/13/14)

(quoted from post at 21:18:00 05/12/14) I have an International Industrial M (Yellow) and would like information regarding it. It has been partially restored.

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That would be a W-6 or I-6, not an M. I can't tell which though. If it had a pintle hitch, would likely be an I-6 but there appears to be an additional hitch or mount of some sort on the tractor. X1 is the code for gasoline engine. Should be a 1947 model based on the serial number you gave.

The I-6, W-6 and M were based on the same engine. The M looked completely different from the other two, it was a row crop tractor. Looks taller with adjustable rear wheels and usually a narrow front or an adjustable wide front. The I and W versions had the non-adjustable wide front like yours has and where the operator sits was lower on the tractor. Yours has an aftermarket cab on it.

Look at the serial number plate on the left side of the clutch housing where the serial number came from. It should also be stamped I-6 or W-6 I believe. The I-6 or industrial version was usually painted yellow but could be any color also. It appears to have a nice recent coat of paint. Could be a W-6 also, just painted yellow. Nice unit at any rate.

Good for you for getting ready to sell some of your husbands treasures. Sorry for your loss. I hope it goes to someone who will take care of it like your husband did and the tractor lives on to give another person joy of operating it.

highcropwife · May 13, 2014

="Matt E."](reply to post at 12:05:42 05/13/14) [/quote]

https://photos.yesterdaystractors.com/gallery/identify/c52215.jpgquote

I had a pic of the serial number plate which has MODEL M?
I have several pics of the rear and sides also, but am having trouble uploading to this forum.

mkirsch · May 13, 2014

That picture does look an awful lot like a W6 or I6 from a distance but the FBK prefix on the serial number indicates a Farmall.

A larger picture taken closer up would be helpful.

If it were a W6 it would be a WBK prefix, and IBK for an I6.

Matt E. · May 13, 2014

Sure looks like a W-6 or I-6 to me also. Never seen a M without adjustable rear axles and the front end linkage.

Looking closely at the data plate picture, it could be that the plate was added after painting. The rivets look new to me but I could be wrong. There is also red paint on the lower right edge.

Might have to look at a casting code to see if it matches up to the year of the data plate serial number.

I'm almost 100% positive that isn't a M. A pic of the front end and from the rear would help.

Matt E. · May 13, 2014

Has to be a W-6 or I-6. You can see the steering control arm like a W-9 running from the front end back to the operator's platform. Also the support arms from the front end to the center behind the oil pan.

I'd like to see a pic inside the cab, the steering wheel looks really tall from where it should be. May be custom to fit a different seat in there or it could just be an optical illusion.

I think what is messing us up is I think the grill and hood is off a M. It has the raised slot for the steering rod. Shouldn't have that on a W-6 or I-6.

Yes more pics would be helpful. It looks like a well modified W-6. Likely had a nice set of tin from a M to put on her. Would it fit properly? Anybody tried it?

highcropwife · May 13, 2014

(reply to post at 14:10:35 05/13/14)

Added a few more pics.

https://photos.yesterdaystractors.com/gallery/identify/c52217.jpg
https://photos.yesterdaystractors.com/gallery/identify/c52218.jpg

John M · May 13, 2014

There were industrial Ms built, but that isn't one of them. What I think it may be, is an M that at some point in its life was modified for one reason or another, and over the years, somehow became a 6 series, OR its a 6 series with the wrong tag and hood on it.

highcropwife · May 13, 2014

(quoted from post at 18:48:06 05/13/14) There were industrial Ms built, but that isn't one of them. What I think it may be, is an M that at some point in its life was modified for one reason or another, and over the years, somehow became a 6 series, OR its a 6 series with the wrong tag and hood on it.

Any thoughts on its value?

John M · May 14, 2014

Im trying to insult you by any means, so please
dont take this the wrong way. Aorund here, that
would do good to bring 600 and that would be
pushing it. Disadvantage here would be that sheet
metal, assuming -6 series, is hard to find, and
would either be expensive, or would have to be
shipped from somewhere. Not knowing its history,
or anything, also makes it less desireable. As for
a working tractor, it has no hydraulics, so that
makes it basically worthless, except as a
collector tractor, and again, without know 100%
for sure why it has the M tag on, what I believe
is a 6 series tractor, will make people hy away
from it.

highcropwife · May 14, 2014

(quoted from post at 05:24:01 05/14/14) Im trying to insult you by any means, so please
dont take this the wrong way. Aorund here, that
would do good to bring 600 and that would be
pushing it. Disadvantage here would be that sheet
metal, assuming -6 series, is hard to find, and
would either be expensive, or would have to be
shipped from somewhere. Not knowing its history,
or anything, also makes it less desireable. As for
a working tractor, it has no hydraulics, so that
makes it basically worthless, except as a
collector tractor, and again, without know 100%
for sure why it has the M tag on, what I believe
is a 6 series tractor, will make people hy away
from it.

Thank you for your information. I know it is difficult when I know so little about this. I do appreciate your help.

Matt E. · May 14, 2014

Oh I don't know that you couldn't get more out of it than that. Shoot, just perused Craig's List and the lowest junk piles were listed at $400. Scrap price is around that. Something that runs and drives should be worth more.

It has been painted nicely, seems to be put together well also. With a front pump and a simple blade, that could be a nice snow pushing tractor depending on where you are from. It is definitely unique and sometimes that sells also. If it starts, runs and drives well, I would start at $1,500 and you can negotiate. Might be closer to $1000 but you never know. Be upfront with what you have. Have someone air up the tires, get it so it starts up easy and see what happens. Good luck!

mkirsch · May 14, 2014

The cab looks like something off of a road grader. The pedals say "Farmall" but the hood says "Industrial/Wheatland" but the grille says "Farmall" again, but the front end says "Industrial/Wheatland"

I'm starting to think that this is one of those "skid units" that IH used to produce.

Basically a skid unit would be a partial tractor shipped on a skid, or pallet, to an aftermarket outfitter where some piece of specialty machinery would be installed. Road graders are one example. Paving machines were also built around IH tractors like that.

It would have been some sort of municipal or industrial equipment, not farm machinery.

Obviously most of the specialty equipment has been removed.

John M · May 14, 2014

I thought about that. The hood and grill are M for
sure, but for those rear hubs to fit, the axle and
housings would have had to be changed as well. Id
really like to see behind those black rails, but I
guess the tub from a -6 would bolt up and the front
axle be used.

D Slater · May 14, 2014

Its a modified Farmall M chassis. Doesn't have W-6 or I-6 sheet metal. also looks to have a M clutch housing and front bolster.
IH made some M chassis with W or I-6 axle housings, axles ETC. and sold to companies that made certain types of special use machines. Some companies even used there own wheels, front axles ETC. Some road graders made from M chassis used 6 type axles.
Don't know if you could find another companies ID plate on the tractor. Depending on how the tractor was originally assembled by a outside manufacture the special use ID may not be there. Or Maybe removed with some extra equipment on the tractor.
Sorry, be just a guess on worth for me.

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