Super M plow

Chester5731 · Mar 26, 2014

I have 2-16 trailer plow I pull behind my Super M. I have fairly light ground and it pulls well in 2nd rear and does ok in 3rd if it is easy going. Would I be asking too much to pull 3-14 in 2nd?

dej(Jed) · Mar 26, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:31:18 03/26/14) I have 2-16 trailer plow I pull behind my Super M. I have fairly light ground and it pulls well in 2nd rear and does ok in 3rd if it is easy going. Would I be asking too much to pull 3-14 in 2nd?

Unless you are in to clay, 3 x14 should not be an issue.

DeltaRed · Mar 26, 2014

A super M was 'classed' as a 3 plow tractor right
from the factory.I wouldn't be a bit surprised if
3rd gear pulls that 3 bottom....

Chester5731 · Mar 26, 2014

(quoted from post at 12:04:49 03/26/14) A super M was 'classed' as a 3 plow tractor right
from the factory.I wouldn't be a bit surprised if
3rd gear pulls that 3 bottom....

What size bottoms where refered to according to the manufacturers in the days theses tractors where made? Could make a big difference from 12-16 inch. My guess for that tractor would be 14 inch but I never was too sure.

IH fan · Mar 26, 2014

(quoted from post at 13:31:18 03/26/14) I have 2-16 trailer plow I pull behind my Super M. I have fairly light ground and it pulls well in 2nd rear and does ok in 3rd if it is easy going. Would I be asking too much to pull 3-14 in 2nd?

Of course soil conditions make a world of difference, but in most soil, it would have to be a pretty sick Super M to not easily handle a 3x14" plow. It should handle 3x16" in many soils.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 26, 2014

Dad bought an M new in 1948. Always pulled 3-16,s lighter soil-3rd and 4th gear. Heavy black gumbo bottom ground got down in 2nd gear and really barked. Very strong M.

DeltaRed · Mar 26, 2014

I never saw where bottom size was specified.14" is
a good guess.

sd pete · Mar 26, 2014

3x14 or 3x16 should be ok anywhere. Except for
plowing alfalfa or sticky missouri river bottom
gumbo.

redforlife · Mar 26, 2014

The M was always considered a 3 plow tractor. I always figured it was 3- 12". A super M should be able to handle 3- 14" if not getting into tough ground. If not, could always gear down. 3- 16" would be a bit much to ask, especially if you get into some compacted or tough ground. Probly handle them in really loose ground and not grabing to big of gear.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 26, 2014

It sounds to me like you've got the perfect size plow right
now.

Glenn F.

IH fan · Mar 26, 2014

(quoted from post at 16:02:11 03/26/14) The M was always considered a 3 plow tractor. I always figured it was 3- 12". A super M should be able to handle 3- 14" if not getting into tough ground. If not, could always gear down. 3- 16" would be a bit much to ask, especially if you get into some compacted or tough ground. Probly handle them in really loose ground and not grabing to big of gear.

When tractor companies called a tractor a 2-3 plow, it was a 2x16" or 3x14"... that was always the standard way of expressing it.
Dad pulled a 3x14 with both of his JD 60s and they were about 7 dbhp less than a Super M. Part of it was black Iowa soil and part sandy loam. Clay would have been tougher soil, but with 7 extra hp, a 3x14 should still be okay. Dad later had a 460G and pulled 3x16" with it and it is about the same hp, but maybe less lugging power than a Super M, plus it had the advantage of a TA for tough spots.

NEKS · Mar 26, 2014

We always pulled 3-14s with our M and it always seem to handle it alright. Plowed alfalfa ground with a L Case and 2-14s and the front end was too light to steer.

D beatty · Mar 26, 2014

I use to help neighbor plow and he had 2 Super Ms and pulled 3-16s with them in third gear.

mike1972chev · Mar 26, 2014

My Super pulls my McCormick #16 3x14s very nicely
in 2nd gear. Engine is pretty much stock,but
rebuilt fully right before I bought it back in
2000.

This is a northern Indiana bean field in the photo
we are plowing.It plowed good all day,but I DID
hit a FEW "hard spots" in the field that lugged
the engine down (throttle WIDE open and pegging
the governor.)

Like has been said on here before GROUND CONDITION
means everything on what you can pull! Also a
badly set up plow,bent/bad plow points/wear
parts,dirty,rusty,out of alignment
moldboard,ETC......, also hurt ease of pulling the
plow.

For "all around" use I think you can do 3x14s in
2nd gear.I would personally NOT go above a 3x14
IMHO

mike1972chev · Mar 26, 2014

(Trouble posting this in my original for some reason???

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cushman · Mar 26, 2014

After I bought my 400D 2 1/2 years ago,I got a 3-16 fasthitch plow to go with it,and can usually run in 3rd.

rustred · Mar 26, 2014

you should be pulling 3/16's in third, and shift to 2nd when pulling gets tough. if it cant handle 3/16's in that soil then your tractor is not up to snuff.

robgIN · Mar 27, 2014

if you get into some tough clay , 3-14s may be all you want and then some. You haven't plowed until you have plowed some good old sticky tough clay , really makes you appreciate the easy stuff

Hugh McKinney · Mar 28, 2014

That DOES bring back some memories! We had a 450 outfitted just like your 400, and three green 70's, all hooked up to 3-14's, in our sticky red clay...never actually saw the Farmall rare up, did see one of the JD's do it tho'. IH had the good sense to put the engine nearer the front to hold it down when the going got tough!

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