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Dave8N in Pa

01-20-2014 11:11:39
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Ok gents, I found the problem. I think. The part that acts like a U-joint is broken. Not sure what the right name is. Not sure where to buy one either. Not sure if they still make new ones. Not sure I want to settle for a used one. Not sure why it is broken. Not sure if it is all that needs replaced. Not sure if I can replace it without dropping the pump. Advice will be vary welcomed.




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mkirsch

01-22-2014 06:20:11
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-20-2014 11:11:39  
If you can, jack up both wheels and roll them at the same time too.



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Dave8N in Pa

01-22-2014 13:33:24
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 Re: Update on H in reply to mkirsch, 01-22-2014 06:20:11  
Sounds like a good idea, thanks.



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PretendFarmer

01-22-2014 05:20:47
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-20-2014 11:11:39  
I would also suspect it broke for a reason. I pull my H in tractor pulls. Its bone stock with low gears and I have pulled till it stalled before in 8000lbs class.

I had to replace mine with a used one from Zach and it works great. My original one had gotten worn. The holes were ovaled out. This created play. I noticed it because it made a bit of noise when I put it in gear and let the clutch out. I'm sure it wouldve broken eventually.
This post was edited by PretendFarmer at 05:22:37 01/22/14.

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Dave8N in Pa

01-22-2014 13:31:21
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 Re: Update on H in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-22-2014 05:20:47  
Thanks Farmer, I just got this tractor and really hadn't a chance to get used to it. Started out picking corn, lots of noise from the picker. So I didn't get the chance to know how the old tractor feels and sounds. If yours was worn in the holes, maybe that's what happened to mine. Dave



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mkirsch

01-21-2014 05:24:04
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-20-2014 11:11:39  
The coupler ring between the two yokes is what's broken, right?

Once you get that coupler out, you'll want to make sure that the tractor rolls freely in all gears before you slap it back together and try moving it.

That coupler ring broke for a reason. If you just replace it without at least looking for the cause, it will likely just break again as soon as you try to move the tractor.

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Dave8N in Pa

01-21-2014 15:26:37
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 Re: Update on H in reply to mkirsch, 01-21-2014 05:24:04  
Yes sir, that is the part with 4 bolts in it. I guess you mean jack it up and roll one tire? I could pull it with another tractor but that wouldn't be vary gentle either. Or let it idle and ease the clutch out with one wheel jacked up after I replace the joint. Guess I better start by rolling the tire by hand with clutch out in and out of gear.



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Jim Becker

01-22-2014 07:43:13
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-21-2014 15:26:37  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeAfter you get the broken parts removed (so the transmission is not connected to the clutch/engine), put it in gear and try turning a rear wheel. If it is locked up, you haven't found the root problem yet.



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TomH in PA

01-20-2014 15:37:11
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-20-2014 11:11:39  
While you're that far into it take a look at the front transmission seal. You'll have done most of the work to get at it already.



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tractor vin

01-20-2014 15:27:54
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-20-2014 11:11:39  
you do have to drop the belly pump,trans jack or another guy can get it out of the way



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Dave8N in Pa

01-20-2014 16:11:28
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 Re: Update on H in reply to tractor vin, 01-20-2014 15:27:54  
Thank you sir, that's what I needed to know. Do you happen to know the right name for the part I'm changing?



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Zachary Hoyt

01-20-2014 17:14:39
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-20-2014 16:11:28  
My original H parts book lists the input shaft as "shaft"#48551D, the plate as "joint ring" #43769D and the tapered bolts as 15393DX. I am not clear which parts you need to replace.
Zach



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Dave8N in Pa

01-21-2014 15:47:52
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 01-20-2014 17:14:39  
Thank you Zach, the coupler ring must be the part I need. As I looked up inside at the shaft joint I can see the fresh brake in the metal. The ring appears to cast iron. It was porous metal and shaft is swinging freely except for point.



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Zachary Hoyt

01-20-2014 12:43:48
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-20-2014 11:11:39  
The input shaft has a thing in it that is sort of like a U joint. It has four tapered bolts that hold it together, a yoke on the shaft, a yoke on the front of the transmission and a kind of stamped plate type thing that connects them. I have good used partss for sale if you decide you want to go used. Those tapered bolts are expensive, new or used, in my experience. I usually get $20 for a set of four good ones. Zach

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Dave8N in Pa

01-20-2014 13:16:53
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Zachary Hoyt, 01-20-2014 12:43:48  
Thanks Zach, I'm going to try to get the parts locally if I can. But thanks and I will keep your offer in mind.



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glennster

01-20-2014 12:00:20
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-20-2014 11:11:39  
can you post any pictures of the damaged parts?



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Dave8N in Pa

01-20-2014 13:11:12
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 Re: Update on H in reply to glennster, 01-20-2014 12:00:20  
Haven't got it out yet. Can it be taken out without dropping the pump?



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Dave_Id

01-20-2014 11:57:10
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-20-2014 11:11:39  
Throwout bearing?



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Dave8N in Pa

01-20-2014 13:13:07
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave_Id, 01-20-2014 11:57:10  
Wrong end of the shaft. Back where it hooks on to the trans.



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rusted nuts

01-20-2014 11:27:25
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 Re: Update on H in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 01-20-2014 11:11:39  
Not sure, But I think they still make new ones, If not I for sure would put a used one in before I parked the tractor.



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Dave8N in Pa

01-20-2014 13:09:07
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 Re: Update on H in reply to rusted nuts, 01-20-2014 11:27:25  
Yes sir, I will not park the tractor.



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