Update on H

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 20, 2014

Ok gents, I found the problem. I think. The part that acts like a U-joint is broken. Not sure what the right name is. Not sure where to buy one either. Not sure if they still make new ones. Not sure I want to settle for a used one. Not sure why it is broken. Not sure if it is all that needs replaced. Not sure if I can replace it without dropping the pump. Advice will be vary welcomed.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 20, 2014

Not sure, But I think they still make new ones, If not I for sure would put a used one in before I parked the tractor.

Dave_Id · Jan 20, 2014

Throwout bearing?

glennster · Jan 20, 2014

can you post any pictures of the damaged parts?

Zachary Hoyt · Jan 20, 2014

The input shaft has a thing in it that is sort of like a U joint. It has four tapered bolts that hold it together, a yoke on the shaft, a yoke on the front of the transmission and a kind of stamped plate type thing that connects them. I have good used partss for sale if you decide you want to go used. Those tapered bolts are expensive, new or used, in my experience. I usually get $20 for a set of four good ones.
Zach

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 20, 2014

Yes sir, I will not park the tractor.

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 20, 2014

Haven't got it out yet. Can it be taken out without dropping the pump?

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 20, 2014

Wrong end of the shaft. Back where it hooks on to the trans.

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 20, 2014

Thanks Zach, I'm going to try to get the parts locally if I can. But thanks and I will keep your offer in mind.

tractor vin · Jan 20, 2014

you do have to drop the belly pump,trans jack or another guy can get it out of the way

TomH in PA · Jan 20, 2014

While you're that far into it take a look at the front transmission seal. You'll have done most of the work to get at it already.

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 20, 2014

Thank you sir, that's what I needed to know. Do you happen to know the right name for the part I'm changing?

Zachary Hoyt · Jan 20, 2014

My original H parts book lists the input shaft as "shaft"#48551D, the plate as "joint ring" #43769D and the tapered bolts as 15393DX. I am not clear which parts you need to replace.
Zach

mkirsch · Jan 21, 2014

The coupler ring between the two yokes is what's broken, right?

Once you get that coupler out, you'll want to make sure that the tractor rolls freely in all gears before you slap it back together and try moving it.

That coupler ring broke for a reason. If you just replace it without at least looking for the cause, it will likely just break again as soon as you try to move the tractor.

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 21, 2014

Yes sir, that is the part with 4 bolts in it. I guess you mean jack it up and roll one tire? I could pull it with another tractor but that wouldn't be vary gentle either. Or let it idle and ease the clutch out with one wheel jacked up after I replace the joint. Guess I better start by rolling the tire by hand with clutch out in and out of gear.

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 21, 2014

Thank you Zach, the coupler ring must be the part I need. As I looked up inside at the shaft joint I can see the fresh brake in the metal. The ring appears to cast iron. It was porous metal and shaft is swinging freely except for point.

PretendFarmer · Jan 22, 2014

I would also suspect it broke for a reason. I pull my H in tractor pulls. Its bone stock with low gears and I have pulled till it stalled before in 8000lbs class.
I had to replace mine with a used one from Zach and it works great. My original one had gotten worn. The holes were ovaled out. This created play. I noticed it because it made a bit of noise when I put it in gear and let the clutch out. I'm sure it wouldve broken eventually.

mkirsch · Jan 22, 2014

If you can, jack up both wheels and roll them at the same time too.

Jim Becker · Jan 22, 2014

(quoted from post at 18:26:37 01/21/14) Yes sir, that is the part with 4 bolts in it. I guess you mean jack it up and roll one tire? I could pull it with another tractor but that wouldn't be vary gentle either. Or let it idle and ease the clutch out with one wheel jacked up after I replace the joint. Guess I better start by rolling the tire by hand with clutch out in and out of gear.

fter you get the broken parts removed (so the transmission is not connected to the clutch/engine), put it in gear and try turning a rear wheel. If it is locked up, you haven't found the root problem yet.

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 22, 2014

Thanks Farmer, I just got this tractor and really hadn't a chance to get used to it. Started out picking corn, lots of noise from the picker. So I didn't get the chance to know how the old tractor feels and sounds. If yours was worn in the holes, maybe that's what happened to mine. Dave

Dave8N in Pa · Jan 22, 2014

Sounds like a good idea, thanks.

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