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I need a Loader/Snowplow/Road Grading tractor for a Wisconsin cabin. Cabin sorta has a building lot also.

My history is Deere but I have a Super C with a front snow blade at a different place.

Think I want a Red Tractor at the Cabin.

C,H or M would work. I am impressed with the Super C's Handiness, narrow front, and ease to work on. What should I look for C,H or M, good and bad ?
 
Hs are a dime a dozen in my area and go pretty cheap. Shoot I have 4 of them that I have been wanting to sell now for years and none are selling
 
Good thought Old, thanks.

Which do you think is a better design and of course they are real similer ?

Which do you prefer to work on?
 
I swear by the letter series. My loader tractor is an M. Very maneuverable with the narrow front. I'm surprised no one has started the discussion about how unstable they are. I'm assuming you have a head on your shoulders so we can skip that.

An H should be enough if you don't have any serious work to do. Not that an H won't do it, but it is a lighter tractor. I would find one with live hydraulics, load the rear tires, and you are good to go. I have never had a temperature that I couldn't get the M started in. Sometimes I wish it wouldn't have but that's another story.
 
They are about the same to mechanic. Differences are in the size of the components. A super C with a fast hitch is way handy.
Find a StageII super H and also e happy with live Hydraulics. An M is an animal and not convenient for utility work. Jim
 
Never had a C but over the years I have had a few Bs and I have a BA that I use a lot. BA because the front half is a B and the back from the transmission back is an A.
As for working on them all pretty much the same other then the bigger HP wise the bigger some parts are. As I said I have 4 Hs and also an M and I do not use any of them but then I do have to many tractors
 
Thank you. I drove an M once. I remember letting the clutch out real SLOW.

It just about jumped out from under me.
 
For your stated tasks, then I would go farmall h and this is coming from a guy that owns both a h as well as a m.

h's sell cheap and there were more of them sold too which means a good value for you to purchase as well as future parts availability.

it is a shame that h's get so little respect, but that again means good value for you.

I love my h - it is a fuel miser for what it is. A m is a fine tractor too but not nearly as nimble as the h. As far as comparing designs; the h and m are very similar copies of each other. Basically the m is 33% more tractor in hp and it has more weight and girth. Regardless, if you can work on your C then you could easily work on a h or a m.
 
I think any would do well. I would think for snow you might want the weight of the M, but H or M would be pretty sweet. I see more M's around here... so they tend to be cheaper, but I wouldn't scoff at a C or H either.
 
Forgot to mention earlier, that I do not think the C or Super C's have a frame on the front making them less than ideal for adding a loader.

Not that I think an h or a m is a great loader tractor; but they are better suited for a loader due to the front frame as compared to a C or Super C where the engine is also the front frame and egineers were not thinking loader when they designed it.
 
a c is too light ( no frame ) an m too big for a cabin so that means the h is the best one of the letter tractors it is easy on fuel and has the right weight and h p to do most jobs at the cabin in my opinion
 
Too light. Shoot they made loaders that fit cubs in the day. All depends on how you look at things I guess. Still kicking my self for not buying a load at an auction the fit a cub. It sold for all of $7 so I should have bid but didn't
 
We had a Super C for years with narrow front and a bucket loader. It was our main tractor and we did everything we needed to with it. I thought it was a real nice tractor.
 
Any of the three would work. Fast hitch would be a real plus. Front blade on loader with rear blade or box scraper on rear would really be nice in my opinion.

Keep an open mine Farmall 200,240, IH 300, or 350 Farmall or Utility all would work well for you.
Good Luck, Bill
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I've owned and operated all 3.

The M with loader was too clumsy for what we were doing at the time.

We had about 300 feet of driveway with plenty of room to push snow. We didn't ever have to pile it with a loader.

H worked good with 3ph and box blade, but again not nearly as handy as the Super C. Super C had a grader blade, weights and chains.

I don't move snow any more but maintain 1/2 acre of gravel parking lot and about 1000' of gravel road. Super C with Fast hitch and grader blade works great.
 
If your juat using it at a cabin a C will do the job. I have a B with a loader on it works great for plowing snow and grading driveway and pulling wagons loaded with firewood.
 
Tractors should be sized approriate for the job. You can get one thats too big or too small.
The nice thing about an H or M is the ability to do a clutch job on it without splitting the tractor.
If your looking for live hydraulics, your more likely to find it on a C/Super C.
IF your doing grunt work, the C probably isnt the tractor.
Grunt work capability and fuel economy can both be obtained by finding a low geared H as the first gear is significantly lower.
An M is fine and dandy but would probably be oversized for most tasks.
I had a small loader on my 1941 A but due to the design, its quite limited. I wouldn't go lifting 1 yard of dirt with it.
The letter series tractors are not ideal for loaders. Many people do it but its not the tractor's best quality.
 
I see how it is. Green guy's buying red because it's going to sit out in the weather for months at a time in the remote hills of Timbuktu. While the green ones sit in the nice warm barn at home. LOL.

Seriously, none of the three make particularly great loader tractors, but any of the three would make a good inexpensive snow plower / driveway grader / light loader work tractor that won't see much use.

Just look for the best deal on a tractor that runs well and feels good to drive. Better if you find one with a loader already installed.
 
I'd look at a 300 or 350 before an H. Live hydraulics for the loader and a fast hitch for the rear blade.

Any of those old tractors if in good shape can handle sitting for months on end and will fire up without issue as long as they have a good battery.
 
tough call
Of my Farmalls, my SC's are my favorite and most used.
fast hitch rigged to accept 3-point stuff works well.
easy to work on and drives like a dream.
My SH is a great tractor, but a little big on the trails with lots of trees.
Around here too, H's are far cheaper to buy than a SC.
Loader on one of my NF C's?, naw, They don't look that strong up front.
cheap old loader tractor, I'd probably look for a Ford 600-800 with one on it already. common as dirt.
or go with a farmall equivalent which I don't own, but the guys here would know
 
Also I will let you in on my personal experience.
My 1948 C in good running condition was $1200. Needed a few adjustments and a brake lever was missing.
Around here, those tractors are going for at least $1500 while an H is going for about $1000.

If I were buying a tractor and its primary duty was snowplowing AND I picked a letter series, it would be the M. If I were going for an all around tractor it would be between the C or H.
 
You can usually purchase a tractor with a loader for less cost than buying them seperately. Most loader tractors already have fluid ballast in the rear tires and/or extra wheel weights. Often loader tractors can be purchased with tire chains and a heat houser if you ask.

An H and a C are close to the same horsepower, but a bare H would have close to 1000 pounds more weight than a bare C, more gear selections and a longer wheel base, all will help a lot with a loader. An H with a loader should be able to push and lift nearly twice as much as a C with a loader. Similar to comparing a John Deere B to an MT or a J.I. Case SC to a VAC.

Farmall H tractors are useful, plentiful and inexpensive. If you can find a Farmall SH, SM, 300, 350, 400, 450, Oliver 77, 88, or Case 400 for not much more money I would jump at it though. The live hydraulics and faster gears will be more useful.

A loader makes a tractor longer, clumsier and steer harder, especially with a wide snow bucket. If you don't want to have two tractors, consider getting a loader that is easy to remove and install so you can easily drop the loader when you don't want it. A Deere #45 loader is one that is easy to remove, others loaders may be similar.

Let us know what you find, and post a picture.
 
I"ve got an M with a Farmhand F11B loader. I absolutely *love* it. I wish I had live hydraulics, and one of these years . . . . I"ve got the narrow front, which makes it a bit of a widow-maker. I"ve got a wide front I"ll be putting under her this spring. At the same time, I"ll be replacing the 2-spool hydraulic controls with 3-spool and adding a 3-point. I probably would have saved money by getting a 656 Utility with power steering, live hydraulics, yada yada. Still, there is something compelling about the letter series.
 
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