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First oli change for the 49M

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Patrick HMD

03-08-2013 18:18:24




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I had decided to use straight 30 wt. Seems like the general consensus here is to use non detergent for fear of breaking some crud loose with high detergent therefore clogging up some oil passages and causing problems there. So I decided to give it the benefit of the doubt and I went and got some Traveller 30 wt. ND from Tractor supply with that in mind.

Now I'm reading the lable and it says the ND has no additives, and is not suitable for use in most gasoline powered automotive engines built after 1930. It goes on to say that it might cause equipment harm. So what's a feller to do.

I have no prior history of what kind of oil was used in it's past life. I did drop the oil pan, and the bottom of the pan had very, very little sludge buildup. Also the exposed guts looked very, very clean. Right now the M purrs like a kitten and dosen't smoke at all. So again, what's a feller to do?

TIA

Patrick

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colekicker

03-10-2013 19:54:15




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
What you bought is for air compressors. You shouldn't use that oil in your tractor since it basically has no additive package.



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S2710

03-09-2013 10:07:41




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
Pat just run a good grade of oil in her and it will be fine. Years ago I bought a M that was very dirty. The valve cover had so much junk in it that you could see marks where the rocker arms were moving in the cover.I cleaned the top off with diesel fuel and droped the pan and cleaned it out. Put it back together and filled it up with ATF and ran it at about half throttle for a half hour and drained it and did the same thing again and then put 15-40 diesel oil in it and never had a problem.

Bob

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CNKS

03-09-2013 09:16:20




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
I've read this forum since 1998, probably on 90-95% of the days and I wasn't aware that non-detergent was the consensus. Use detergent and don't worry about it. You will find posts that say they put detergent in old tractors and the engine immediately started using oil. Chances are good it was on its last legs anyway. We used detergent oil in our tractors in the 50's so it's been around long enough that only the diehards currently use it.
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tomturkey

03-09-2013 07:56:09




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
Please correct me if I am wrong. But does'nt detergent keep the "dirty" stuff in suspension so it can either be trapped by the oil filter(if it has one) or settle in the bottom of the pan. If you had no to very little sludge in the pan. Then I say use modern day dtergent additive oil and keep that engine clean. As the previous owner obviously did. just my .02 worth gobble



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SD Pete

03-09-2013 06:45:22




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
I used that oil in my loader reservoirs and belly pump.



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VA Gasman

03-09-2013 05:28:01




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
Patrick,
In the last 2 years I have added 1/2 bottle of LUCAS to oil changes on 4 tractors made from 1950 to 1955. I noticed that oil pressure goes a little higher and I know it adds to lubricity.



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Baelee05

03-08-2013 20:00:50




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
I run nothing but Low Ash 30 wt in all the old Farmalls.



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53 super H

03-08-2013 19:49:24




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
I have my dad's super H and it has used Motor Craft 10-40 for the last 30 + yrs with no problems. I switched to 15-40 last yr with no problems.



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Duner Wi

03-08-2013 19:34:08




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
If it were mine and the pan was clean and I wanted 30 Wt. I would buy 30 wt with API code SN, SM, SL or diesel 30 WT.
Personally in my M I run multigrade for last 40 years with out problems.
Low ash would be fine too. Better according to some.



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brent wortham

03-08-2013 19:23:45




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
my grand dad used nothing but straight 30 wt oil in tractors and pickups worked just fine.... i use 30 wt oil in tractors to



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rustred

03-08-2013 19:05:44




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
well why put nondetergent oil in it then? give it some 10-30. 10-40, 20-50 depending on your climate. the 15-40 diesel oil has a higher detergent than the reg. gasoline oils.if your worried about it.



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notjustair

03-08-2013 18:29:33




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
Just dump some oil in it. It isn't rocket science. The oil that was used in it originally was poor compared to what we have now and it lasted just fine. You aren't ever going to wear it out if you keep it full of oil and change it when you need to.

EVERYTHING on the farm gets Rotella 15-40. I haven't ever read the label to see if it is "recommended" or not. Too late now as this stuff has been running on it for years.

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DeltaRed

03-08-2013 18:27:19




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 Re: First oli change for the 49M in reply to Patrick HMD, 03-08-2013 18:18:24  
Since you didn't find any sludge in the pan,there wont be any in the rest of the engine.Obviosly that tractor has had decent maintanance.I would just put in 10/30;15/40 and run it.And not to worry,alot of those old tractors are running that kind of oil.Includeing mine./



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