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IH460 clutch

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01-26-2013 18:47:33

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Hello guys. I've got this 460u and when the engine is running and not in gear it will sometimes rock back and forth and also the clutch is hard to push down with the foot. Does the clutch need adj. and is there a place or hole that I can see part of the clutch to see if its working properly? Thanks

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D Slater

01-27-2013 06:54:04

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to LarryNMO, 01-26-2013 18:47:33  
If the rocking is not from fliud in tires or real cold thick oil friction. May suspect the piliot bearing on the transmission main shaft is starting to go bad.
Above is with the transmission in nuetral. In nuetral the clutch would not cause it the rocking.
This post was edited by D Slater at 10:04:22 01/27/13.

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01-26-2013 21:30:36

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to LarryNMO, 01-26-2013 18:47:33  
first of all it is common practice to shift gears at a complete idle. unlike the w6 which can be shifted on the go or at any speed , has to be one of the easiest shifting tractors. these tractors with the t.a. do not shift as easy. 460,560 or 660 they are the same. get a manual and adjust as required. can be anything from stiff linkage to the throw out brg being dry on shaft. pull the cover off the bottom of bell housing and have a look in there. there is also a grease nipple in there to grease.

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01-27-2013 06:41:27

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to rustred, 01-26-2013 21:30:36  
Thanks guys for the replies. I've got a operators manual, but I need to pick up a shop manual too for more detailed info. The rocking movement still has me scratching my head. Its almost as if the the clutch is grabbing while not in gear. It doesn't do it all the time, just once in a while.

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01-27-2013 07:09:47

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to LarryNMO, 01-27-2013 06:41:27  
you may have grease or oil on the disc, that will make it jumpy.

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01-27-2013 07:15:43

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to rustred, 01-27-2013 07:09:47  
Some times on the go it will shift properly and other times not.

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01-26-2013 20:36:02

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to LarryNMO, 01-26-2013 18:47:33  
Does the tractor shift okay? Does the clutch slip under load?

When the tractor is in neutral, there's no way the clutch could make it rock back and forth.

Also, pushes hard compared to what?

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01-26-2013 20:52:35

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to mkirsch, 01-26-2013 20:36:02  
I've had other ford tractors before and i don't remember those being that hard to push down with my foot.

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01-27-2013 08:42:12

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to LarryNMO, 01-26-2013 20:52:35  
The clutch is much harder to push than a Ford. In one of the series larger than yours there was a hydraulic assist on the pedal! The clutch is designed to not be a weak point. Shifting is to be done stopped at idle. The trans fluid is thin HYtran, and doesn't stop the rotating mass as well as thick 90 wt. I think the tire has fluid in it. They slosh. Jim

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01-27-2013 09:43:49

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to Janicholson, 01-27-2013 08:42:12  
I'll bleed the other tire off a little to see if there is fluid in it. Thanks Its raining and sleeting this morning. Wish I was in Florida, it's only 80 Deg.

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01-26-2013 20:11:06

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to LarryNMO, 01-26-2013 18:47:33  
The pedal should have between 1 inch and 1.25 inches of free travel (pushing down by hand) before the pressure gets difficult to move by hand, if that is the case it is good to go. if not adjust the rod longer or shorter to put in in that range.
What is rocking back and forth. I have no clue what you mean. The tractor, the clutch, front o back, side to side ???? Jim

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01-26-2013 20:46:38

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to Janicholson, 01-26-2013 20:11:06  
Yes, I should have said the tractor is rocking. I'll have to check tomorrow for the free play on the pedal, but the best I remember now is that it is hard to push all the way down. Also when trying to put it in first gear or any other gear you have to have the rpm's as low as you get it, otherwise it will grind the gears. You can see the tires move just a little. I know for sure one tire only has air in it, because I purchased a used tire for it back in the summer. Not sure about the other yet. Thanks Larry

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01-26-2013 20:06:48

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 Re: IH460 clutch in reply to LarryNMO, 01-26-2013 18:47:33  
I bet the tractor is rocking back and forth because the tires are loaded. When she is rocken shut off the engine, I bet she is still-a-rockin.

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