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PretendFarmer

01-26-2013 04:11:40
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On my 140, I just got the motor back together. I bought this tractor not running. The clutch is adjusted all the way out. When Ipress the pedal in, the clutch does not disengage. Is it siezed?

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Dennis K (WA)

01-26-2013 19:41:14
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-26-2013 04:11:40  
If it has an inspection cover, grease access, hole like the older models;

With engine off and another person holding the clutch pedal down, go through the hole with a punch to the hub of the clutch plate and rap it hard with a hammer. Unless it is severely stuck it will free itself.

Another possibility is the pilot bushing in the flywheel, but not as likely.

Dennis

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Tom Fleming

01-26-2013 16:14:26
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-26-2013 04:11:40  
ok, we all need to slow down. Myself included.

Pretend Farmer: take a minute, and remove the clutch inspection plate. Get a 2nd person to help you with the next step. You will need a flash light.

Have someone work the clutch while you look inside the inspection hole (actually the throwout lube access hole). It is not very big, so not alot to see. However, you should be able to see the overall condition of the pressure plate and disk. you can then watch as the helper works the clutch. You should be able to see whether or not the disk is rusted and not moving.

Before we go down many different, and potentially correct suggestions, let's start with the simple ones, and get progressively deeper up to and including a split of the tractor.....which is a definite possibility. I am not at all familiar with the 140, but I am assuming it has the small opening for greasing the throwout, which might give enough line of sight to tell if the disc is frozen to the fly wheel or not. I may be wrong, as I said, I am not familiar with anything newer than an A, B, or C.

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El Toro

01-26-2013 16:02:38
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-26-2013 04:11:40  
You may need to split the tractor. Hal

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oldiron29

01-26-2013 14:59:42
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-26-2013 04:11:40  
Pretend, If your clutch is stuck and spinning tranny and you have real cold gear oil you could have found why you engine is cranking slow.
oldiron29

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mkirsch

01-26-2013 11:36:50
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-26-2013 04:11:40  
The only other option is to split the tractor and remove the clutch to get it freed up.

Just make sure the transmission is in NEUTRAL when you start fiddling with the engine to finally get it running.

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Tom Fleming

01-26-2013 10:26:37
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-26-2013 04:11:40  
and make sure BOTH brake peddles are locked together...........

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ken house

01-26-2013 09:32:00
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-26-2013 04:11:40  
i assume that the engine will run. if you have wide open space available and a hill, get the tractor on the hill, heading downwards; get on the tractor, put the tractor in 3rd gear and start it. drive around with your foot pressing the clutch pedal. maybe it will come loose. throttle the tractor up and down, press the brake pedals and then release them. be careful doing this, make sure you have plenty of space.

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Tom Fleming

01-26-2013 06:39:42
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-26-2013 04:11:40  
Ok, I see on your other post about the engine, that this was an in-tractor rebuild.

REmove the clutch inspection cover, and see if the clutch disc moves when the clutch is engaged vs. di-engaged. If this had been sitting for awhile, the disc can rust to the flywheel. The splines can also become rusted.

Best technique to free up a stuck clutch disk (if it isn't too too badly rusted) is to start the old girl up in first gear and with the clutch pushed in, firmly tap the brakes to free it up while running (moving). There are other ways too that are a little more agressive, that I am not a fan of. this of course assumes you have good brakes.

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Tom Fleming

01-26-2013 06:02:57
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-26-2013 04:11:40  
are you doing an "in tractor" rebuild on the engine? Have you inspected the clutch?

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Tom Fleming

01-26-2013 05:35:26
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-26-2013 04:11:40  
Well, the clutch disk could be rusted (stuck) tot he fly wheel. Are you doing an "in tractor" job on the engine? I would think so, since you would have to remove the clutch (or at least see it) with the engine removed. Remove the lower inspection plate to see what is going on if you have not removed the engine. You should have approx 3/4" - 1" free travel in the clutch pedal to be correctly set.

Need more info.

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PretendFarmer

01-26-2013 05:40:45
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Re: siezed clutch? in reply to Tom Fleming, 01-26-2013 05:35:26  
What info would you like? Im not sure.... its a 140, and when I hit the clutch pedal the clutch wont disengage....

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