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Topic: would an A make a good puller? why, why not?
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PretendFarmer

01-20-2013 10:38:47
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Simple question. I've seen B's and C's. Never an A out there.




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MRF-Engines

01-20-2013 16:14:44
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-20-2013 10:38:47  
I've pulled my father's A in 2500lb class and it did real well. I've put my Super A in 3000lb class and it does well there, even against Super C's. Once I get into 3500lb though I have problems with traction, the smaller diamater tires tend to spin out (and I got 11.2's on the Super A). I used to pull a C as well, and I had much more luck with it due to the tire size, 36" vs 24". Keep in mind my tractors are pretty much stock due to the costs. I really enjoy pulling my A's, but only a few pulls near me have the low weight classes.

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Pat-CT

01-20-2013 15:57:48
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-20-2013 10:38:47  
The only reason I suspect you see more B's then A's is the narrow
front over the wide front. I see plenty of A's pull however.



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Machine249

01-20-2013 14:59:58
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-20-2013 10:38:47  
I had an A I wanted to pull with and was told I would be pulling in the same class as the Oliver 66 and wouldn't have much chance beating it. Also, as far as the tractor being heavier on one side, The rear wheel centers are made for that. The one on the left side was stamped steel the right side was thick cast iron. I never paid any mind to it until I removed them for paint. The left side was okay, but the right almost bowled me over.

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Dave Sherburne NY

01-20-2013 13:10:40
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-20-2013 10:38:47  
Back in the seventies when my oldest son was a teenager he used to pull our Super A with wheel weights and fluid in the tires. He did very well with it. We had the wheels out as far as they would go and still get it on the stake rack truck.
I remember one year we took it to Auburn to a fireman's pull and He was doing quite well in the lighter classes On his last pull we borrowed weights off an Oliver guy to hit the max allowed for the class , the track crew was waiting about 1/3 of the way down the grass track. When he passed them they ran ahead to about 2/3 of the way but he passed them again and almost made a full pull.

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Ron W

01-20-2013 11:16:32
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-20-2013 10:38:47  
Aguy once told me that an A wasn't a good puller due
to the different lengths of rear drive shafts;
meaning that the tractor was heavier on the one side
due to the offset while lighter on the other. My
cub is basically the same way and the lighter side
always has less traction and spins the tire.



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gene bender

01-20-2013 15:26:37
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to Ron W, 01-20-2013 11:16:32  
Thats what wheel wts are for. You weigh the left side then the right side and add wts to make it even. Just like weighing the front and then the back



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sflem849

01-20-2013 15:32:55
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to gene bender, 01-20-2013 15:26:37  
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Those drive on scale pads would be really nice for that. They would weight each of the rears individually. Around here some of the counties have them for weight manure spreaders for NMPs. I know of some seed dealers that have some as well.



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sflem849

01-20-2013 12:32:49
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to Ron W, 01-20-2013 11:16:32  
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Makes a little sense, but it is easy enough to bulk up the light side with an extra weight.

I have never seen them pulled much. It scares me since they don't have a frame. It could break in half and then break you in half.



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gene bender

01-20-2013 10:55:58
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-20-2013 10:38:47  
Some like them because they are narrow and you can get like 44hp with stock block.



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Mo in NE Tx

01-20-2013 11:16:07
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to gene bender, 01-20-2013 10:55:58  
Gene, will an "A" or "B" hold up to that much HP?



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ShaggyM

01-22-2013 06:36:05
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to Mo in NE Tx, 01-20-2013 11:16:07  
I have a B that makes 40hp and i use it to plow gardens and move snow when we get some. It runs on 89 octane gas!



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PretendFarmer

01-22-2013 09:58:23
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to ShaggyM, 01-22-2013 06:36:05  
Why would you need 40 horsepower to plow the garden and snow? My stock A never has issues with power.

This post was edited by PretendFarmer at 09:58:53 01/22/13.



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ShaggyM

01-22-2013 11:49:00
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-22-2013 09:58:23  
Its a play toy! I pull it, go on tractor rides with it.
I just wanted to see what I could get out of it with a good rebuild and some tuning.
It opens up a few eyes at the tractor pulls and on the Dyno!



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PretendFarmer

01-22-2013 12:42:11
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to ShaggyM, 01-22-2013 11:49:00  
I don't doubt it.

I've pretty much decided that I will go with an H as a puller, hay ride puller, and something to drink beer and look at.

My 140 is my work horse. It is not ready yet, but soon it will be complete with a 3 pt hitch to plow the garden up and snow and loader work and whatever else.

The A is going up to the cabin in new hampshire for my dad to drink beer and look at.

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ShaggyM

01-22-2013 22:43:48
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to PretendFarmer, 01-22-2013 12:42:11  
Nothing better than a few cold ones and old tractors!
Not saying you should drink and drive the tractors!
Enjoy them!



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gene bender

01-20-2013 13:10:44
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 Re: would an A make a good puller? why, why not? in reply to Mo in NE Tx, 01-20-2013 11:16:07  
Dont know that much but i have heard of some pulling with pretty good results. Fellow out east pulls a BN with some serious HP does well. Getting traction is the thing. The final drives appear as though plenty tough for pulling. The B in Nebraska tests done some great things had two wts on each rear wheels ect set some sort of record by pulling wt in ratio of tractor wt. I would think of what local rules are RPMs total wt of tractor tires ect. Some run 2200 RPMs some can only run 10% over stock measured at PTO.

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