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old

12-30-2012 17:03:25
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JFYI 99% of all engine made turn the same direction other wise it would be hard for companies like Wagner and muncie to build transmissions etc that will interchange. As for the starter that I can not say




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Bouncer

12-30-2012 17:59:02
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to old, 12-30-2012 17:03:25  
There is a tremendous number of engines out there that turn the opposite direction of your 99% figure.



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old

12-30-2012 18:56:11
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Bouncer, 12-30-2012 17:59:02  
Yes there are but they are not common and no where near as many so the ones I am talking about. Now starter motors that is a total different thing. As a matter of fact I do not know of any engine I have ever seen that did not turn the same as other, other then one and it ran both ways and that is how the thing had both forward and reverse you simply shut it off and started it back wards to go back wards

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Bouncer

12-30-2012 18:58:49
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to old, 12-30-2012 18:56:11  
So diesel engines are not common?



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12-30-2012 19:48:05
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Bouncer, 12-30-2012 18:58:49  
ALL the diesel engines I have and have messed with spun the same direction as the gas one did other then the Detroit that if you did not watch what was going on would start forward or back wards but that was no was was meant to happen. I know all the Cat and Cummins diesels and the Ih etc ALL spin the same as the gas engines I have been around. Ya also depending on how you look at it the old JD engines didn't because the crank was side ways and the rotation was still the same

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Huskers86

12-30-2012 19:36:31
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Bouncer, 12-30-2012 18:58:49  
All my diesels and gassers that I have turn clockwise if standing in front. What brands turn the other direction? I'm curious to know.



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Bouncer

12-30-2012 19:53:17
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Huskers86, 12-30-2012 19:36:31  
IH gas start diesels, since we are on a IH board.



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rustred

12-30-2012 20:27:25
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Bouncer, 12-30-2012 19:53:17  
not a chance, turn same direction as gas. why do you think they came with a crank like the gas ones... so you can crank them. have done this many times, started a diesel engine with a hand crank.



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Bouncer

12-30-2012 20:42:21
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to rustred, 12-30-2012 20:27:25  
Guess I was wrong then.



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Huskers86

12-30-2012 19:55:35
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Bouncer, 12-30-2012 19:53:17  
They were turning ccw if standing in the front is what you are saying? I've never been around them before.



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Bouncer

12-30-2012 19:54:33
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Bouncer, 12-30-2012 19:53:17  
Or am I all wet and not thinking straight? I know all modern gas and diesels turn the same way, which is clockwise.



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12-30-2012 20:02:38
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Bouncer, 12-30-2012 19:54:33  
The engine that was in my TD-^ IH dozier turned the exact same direction as ALL the other gas/diesel engines I have messed with so maybe you need to back up a bit and rethink things



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Huskers86

12-30-2012 20:00:11
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Bouncer, 12-30-2012 19:54:33  
You know tomorrow morning I'm gonna have to go outside and check every stinking one!! LOL



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Bouncer

12-30-2012 20:04:36
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Huskers86, 12-30-2012 20:00:11  
Like I say, I know my Cummins and Powerstrokes both turn clockwise. I was sure of myself about the IH gas start diesels, but now I am trying to talk myself out of it. However, I know the mags have a CCW rotation.



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old

12-30-2012 21:58:25
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 Re: Starter rotation in reply to Bouncer, 12-30-2012 20:04:36  
Rotation of things like starter and mags due to the mounts can/do rotate different on different engines but as I said 99% of engines rotate the same. As for the GAS/DIESEL IH engines they spin the same as thew gas ones do. Just think about it this way. What would happen if engines did not spin the same way and some one say dropped in a V-8 in place of a straight 6 and the 2 did not rotate the same you would have a night mare to fix that so most as I said 99% rotate the same so swaps etc can be made

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