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Re: 584 auxiliary valve

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jimb2

12-26-2012 05:47:26
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Warren, you are correct, plugging outlets to quick couplers will cause no problems. The 584 has an "open center" hydraulic system which means that the hydraulic oil is circulating in a loop and only gets diverted to a cylinder when a valve is opened.
Therefore it is VERY important to have that "L" shaped return line connected to complete the loop.
If the loop is not complete, the only place for the oil to go is through the relief valve which is NOT good. This will happen if you pull the remote hydraulic lever, you will hear the relief valve buzz and the engine come under load.

JimB

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warren woodrow

12-26-2012 20:49:16
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 Re: 584 auxiliary valve in reply to jimb2, 12-26-2012 05:47:26  
Steering is only thing NOT acting up . Yes , acts aerated upon start up.My loader did a LITTLE better today after I tightened filter bolt but it is still not right . It is slow and has hiccup. It will pick up a hay bale .



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warrenwoodrow

12-26-2012 13:21:43
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 Re: 584 auxiliary valve in reply to jimb2, 12-26-2012 05:47:26  
Thanks a million. I got it going today but front end loader is jerking / hesitating. I checked the filter and it was clean but I have an excessive amount of air in the system as evidenced by air bubbles in fluid. I have worked all cylinders through complete cycle/range of motion but still air and hiccup. Do you have any ideas and is there a better way to get air out.



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Jim Naden

12-26-2012 13:39:37
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 Re: 584 auxiliary valve in reply to warrenwoodrow, 12-26-2012 13:21:43  
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Does the steering act aerated also?

Is the system aerated as soon as you start the tractor or does it aerate after running a while?

Jim N.



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warren woodrow

12-26-2012 22:04:12
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 Re: 584 auxiliary valve in reply to Jim Naden, 12-26-2012 13:39:37  
One more thing- I had changed the filter and checked the screen and noticed a tiny drip when I turned off the tractor. I took off and reinstalled filter and made leak stop. I suppose I may have been drawing air . I noticed when I bought new filter that there were two o-rings in package. My old filter only used one on the bolt in a groove. I checked the drawings on internet and they only show the one o-ring also. I did of course use the new gasket.

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waren woodrow

12-26-2012 20:54:33
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 Re: 584 auxiliary valve in reply to Jim Naden, 12-26-2012 13:39:37  
The level check acts strange also.I put 9 gallons in and checked and it seemed to be at right level on stick . Now I crank and run for 3 minutes and shut off as manual says ans sometimes it will not mark the dipstick [ I guess this has something to do with air. I have unscrewed and check breather and it is clear .



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Jim Naden

12-27-2012 02:22:14
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 Re: 584 auxiliary valve in reply to waren woodrow, 12-26-2012 20:54:33  
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The dipstick tube isn't vented well. Always pull the dipstick, wipe and recheck. This lets the true oil level come up in the dipstick tube to get an accurate level reading.



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warren woodrow

12-27-2012 10:19:06
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 Re: 584 auxiliary valve in reply to Jim Naden, 12-27-2012 02:22:14  
Thanks . I went and looked today and found I still have a tiny leak from filter canister as it had dripped a small amount on ground overnight. I am hoping I will solve my aeration problem if I can ever get the canister to seal correctly to the gasket. Tried not tightening too tight , then tried tightening a little more[got some better] hate to tighten more so I may pull it off and try again. Those darn things should be easy as the canister is in the groove . Thanks for all the input . This has been a long haul for a guy like myself with little time . Started out just changing the o-ring on pto idler shaft but when I pulled it out needle bearings went everywhere due to ends of caged needle bearing having worn off . 10 minute project is now 3 weeks later but almost done after having to pull lift cover and......... on and on.

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