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MisterT 12-21-2012 14:14:28 216.248.71.226 Report to Moderator	Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Your best bet is to take the head, with the valves, springs, everything still assembled, to the machine shop and let the machinist fix whatever needs fixin'. If he thinks it needs valve seals, he'll install them. [Reply]   [No Email]
RandyDowdy 12-21-2012 14:45:21 99.194.30.72 Report to Moderator	Re: No valve seals found in IH 404 prior to rebuild. in reply to MisterT, 12-21-2012 14:14:28   I'm sure he will. But if he asks me what type of seals I want, I would like to know what other people are using, and why they are choosing them. I don't like to spend money and not know I'm doing the best thing for the money. [Reply]  [No Email]
MisterT 12-22-2012 06:15:55 216.248.71.226 Report to Moderator	Re: No valve seals found in IH 404 prior to rebuild. in reply to RandyDowdy, 12-21-2012 14:45:21   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see The machinist should have previous experience and will already know which brand and style works best. My opinion. If there are no valve seals on it now, and the parts manual does not call out for any, then you do not want any. It is entirely possible to get a tight enough oil seal that the valve stems and guides will suffer from insufficient lubrication and could quite possibly sieze up. I've witnessed it myself. [Reply]  [No Email]
RandyDowdy 12-22-2012 09:02:54 99.194.30.72 Report to Moderator	Re: No valve seals found in IH 404 prior to rebuild. in reply to MisterT, 12-22-2012 06:15:55   Oil was coming by the guides though, and I don't have the money at this time to put new guides in. I think he'll put seals in, he's getting the head in about an hour. [Reply]  [No Email]
MisterT 12-22-2012 14:36:09 216.248.71.226 Report to Moderator	Re: No valve seals found in IH 404 prior to rebuild. in reply to RandyDowdy, 12-22-2012 09:02:54   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see The valve guides are extremely important. Replace the guides and you will NOT need the valve seals. In fact, if you do not replace the worn valve guides, you are just wasting your time and throwing a huge chunk of money. DO IT RIGHT the first time and you will never need to do it again. [Reply]  [No Email]
RandyDowdy 12-22-2012 19:01:31 99.194.30.72 Report to Moderator	Re: No valve seals found in IH 404 prior to rebuild. in reply to MisterT, 12-22-2012 14:36:09   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see The head is being surfaced and valves ground. Machinist said guides were in good shape. And he has seals in stock. Maybe the rings were the only problem. I hope so. Can't wait to get it back together. Thanx. RD [Reply]  [No Email]
Janicholson 12-21-2012 15:46:45 74.60.94.18 Report to Moderator	Re: No valve seals found in IH 404 prior to rebuild. in reply to RandyDowdy, 12-21-2012 14:45:21   I opt for the PC Teflon rig seals that meter oil and are more or less standard on modern engines. They are good for a reason. Jim [Reply]  [No Email]
RandyDowdy 12-21-2012 15:48:48 99.194.30.72 Report to Moderator	Re: No valve seals found in IH 404 prior to rebuild. in reply to Janicholson, 12-21-2012 15:46:45   Is that what IH/Case will sell ? Thanx! [Reply]  [No Email]
Janicholson 12-21-2012 17:28:07 74.60.94.18 Report to Moderator	Re: No valve seals found in IH 404 prior to rebuild. in reply to RandyDowdy, 12-21-2012 15:48:48   They might, but since it was not "OEM" I think each dealer can have it their way on what they supply. I use components by size, not original application. Jim [Reply]  [No Email]