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Is this 200 block repairable

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tntleake

11-27-2012 17:25:18
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Another tractor worth the money.?
Has new tires all the way around.He's asking 1K for it.
What would a bare block cost with a rebuild?
Click the link for the ad and it will take you to the craigslist ad and better photos
I have a super C and a 230




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riverbend

11-29-2012 19:20:56
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
The guys around here who do crank turning also do 'spray welding'. They fixed a block for a Super C that was much worse than that. It was slow going since they put the block in an oven, heat it, weld a little, reheat, weld, etc. $12 per inch.

It has been about 5 years of regular use and it is fine.

Greg



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Tom Fleming

11-29-2012 01:11:32
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
the C113 and C123 blocks are notorious for cracking in that area and in that fashion. I cannot tell you how many I have found with that crack.....and most were running just fine from a head gasket perspective. remember, these are thermosyphon engines, and there is little to no pressure in the water jacket.

These are low rpm, low compression, and relatively low "stress" engines. I have seen using one with that crack go both ways, but more often than not, I see them work fine. head gasket, rings, and bearings are not a huge investment if you are doing the work.

Bottom line, that tractor is worth every bit of $1000, in merely parts alone. C113/C123 blocks are not uncommon with the hydraulic pump opening.

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dgerth

11-28-2012 21:53:19
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
I have a "real" 1955 200 for 2K that everything works as required. SFW, FH, PTO, 12V.
509-476 2528.
May be the wrong place for this?
dg



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W.Brehm

11-28-2012 11:04:55
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
I wouldn't bat an eye for that price. $200-$250 front wheels weights, $1000 in rear tires. Don't take advice from individuals who tell you there opinion it's worth $500. Those are individuals who want it for nothing! Those day are long gone.



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Jim Becker

11-28-2012 12:40:15
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to W.Brehm, 11-28-2012 11:04:55  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Not to mention the value of a Super C wide front end.

As far as the damaged block goes, I would not put big bucks into doing a rebuild on it. However, if you can re-ring it and stick in whatever crank bearing inserts it needs, you can likely put it back together and get quite a lot of use out of it. Just go gently on torquing the head down, use smaller torque increments and make more passes with the torque wrench. We had an A that looked about the same (except the crack went through one of the stud holes!). We used it for years. Somebody may still be using it.

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mkirsch

11-28-2012 06:48:34
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
The brand new tires are worth almost $1000 by themselves. If it were me I'd be loading it on my trailer right about now.

I'd find a C123 out of an old Super C or something and stick it in there.



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wisbaker

11-27-2012 22:54:07
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
Anything can be fixed, the question is "is it worth fixing?" I'm guessing that it would be cheaper to find a usable block and rebuild OR find a good running engine. You are an adult so shop around and get an idea of what an engine will cost you add that to the price of the tractor and add 20%. Do you want to buy that tractor for that amount of money? What else could you buy for the same money?



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Lmack

11-27-2012 20:10:21
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
I am not seeing the 2-Point Hitch yoke. The oversize tires indicate a pulling tractor so it will have a pulling hitch. The rear rims are not stock, notice the wedges. Scrap price at the max and you will not be getting much. He gave up on it because it was not cost effective to repair the cracked engine. I assure you that he would already have fixed the crack if it could be fixed. FYI there were no 1952 200 Farmalls. All were made in 1955. The grill says 200 but I would want to see the serial number. It may be an SC with a 200 grill.

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DeltaRed

11-27-2012 20:07:39
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
Tracy,Susan's tractor(Chloe) block was cracked like that .The only 'repair' it got was a new head gasket.Trouble free for 5 years.....Your results may vary.Steve



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Fritz Maurer

11-27-2012 19:26:59
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  

It's more repairable than this block!!



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tntleake

11-27-2012 21:36:39
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to Fritz Maurer, 11-27-2012 19:26:59  
WOW



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Centex Farmall

11-27-2012 20:25:04
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to Fritz Maurer, 11-27-2012 19:26:59  
Better get _Four_ tubes of JB weld for that one!



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steve_in_mo

11-27-2012 19:11:56
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
Looks to me like the crack extends into the bore, so the block is done for. There are a lot of those blocks around, though. Those are some big rear tires on that tractor, probably worth the $1,000. It's worth pursuing if you get the three-point hitch.



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teddy52food

11-27-2012 18:50:31
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
From what I can see in the picture, the head gasket would seal it. Depends on how far that crack goes.



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Centex Farmall

11-27-2012 18:48:49
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
It looks like the crack keeps going to the right between the stud and the cylinder. I think you are in new block territory. The new tires are certainly nice. Looks like it's been sitting inside so there shouldn't be any weathering. It's more like you're buying tires and getting tractor parts on the side.



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Dave_Id

11-27-2012 18:42:35
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
It might be worth $500, but it could be just a can of worms to restore. Parts tractor at the most.



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gene bender

11-27-2012 18:07:06
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
If its not cracked between the cycls and just behind the carb it can be fixed with fiberglass,J-B Weld or rubber cement. The mower B has worked for 12yrs with fiberglass. And another on has been fixed with rubber cement 10 yrs ago and both work just fine but if the crack is between the cycls thats another story.



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Old-F20

11-27-2012 17:53:07
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
blocks repairable. second what delta said on the rear wheels not being right.
id say 500 as well



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DeltaRed

11-27-2012 17:47:00
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to tntleake, 11-27-2012 17:25:18  
Would be a nice addition...But the rear wheels look like Farmall H.What is hooked to the rear?Wts,wide front..a $500 tractor in my opinion.I could be wrong



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tntleake

11-27-2012 17:58:14
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 Re: Is this 200 block repairable in reply to DeltaRed, 11-27-2012 17:47:00  
It has a fast hitch, maybe a 3pt adapter I waiting on a call from him.
They might be 38",I'll find out.



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