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Bob M 11-22-2012 11:51:56 69.207.86.27 Report to Moderator	John - Whenever you see black exhaust it means the pump's injecting more fuel than can be burned. You've eliminated intake/exhaust restricting air flow to/from the engine. And since you've had the pump rebuilt and the injectors tested, at this point I'd suspect the pump timing. Could be it's timed late. Or perhaps the advance is not not working. The pump shop should have checked that however. Good luck, and have a happy Thanksgiving! [Reply]   [No Email]
John in Pennsylvania 11-22-2012 12:08:57 174.255.54.6 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to Bob M, 11-22-2012 11:51:56   This particular injection pump does not have an advance on it. I was wondering about the timing myself t oday. I'm marked the pump when I removed it and I put the pump back on in the exact same location and it matches the timing marks on the pump an engine exactly. I'm just wondering if anything could have happened in the timing set up i tself such as a keyway partially Sheard or something like that? Is that actually possible? [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob M 11-22-2012 12:26:57 69.207.86.27 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to John in Pennsylvania, 11-22-2012 12:08:57   Pump drive key sheared I suppose is possible (I've had the camshaft key break on a gas tractor). Is there a timing adjustment on your pump like on the MD/WD6/WD9 pumps? If so you can change the timing using the adjustment. Otherwise you might set the pump timing 1 tooth advanced from the factory timing mark and see if this helps. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the BD 154. Does it have a Roosa Master pump, or ???? [Reply]  [No Email]
John in Pennsylvania 11-22-2012 13:00:27 174.231.13.193 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to Bob M, 11-22-2012 12:26:57   Yes you can rotate the pump slightly forward and backward but is very hard with all the solid injection lines it doesn't wanna move easily. There is a pin in the key way for the injection pump and gear it is correct not Sheard. [Reply]  [No Email]
John in Pennsylvania 11-22-2012 13:01:46 174.231.13.193 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to John in Pennsylvania, 11-22-2012 13:00:27   Forgot to add it is a CAV rotary injection pump [Reply]  [No Email]
John in Pennsylvania 11-23-2012 02:01:57 174.255.57.246 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to John in Pennsylvania, 11-22-2012 13:01:46   I just read an article that says the bd154 is known for woodruff key problems with the camshaft. Any one seen this????? [Reply]  [No Email]
jimb2 11-23-2012 19:03:59 174.114.182.155 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to John in Pennsylvania, 11-23-2012 02:01:57   Hi John, Dad bought a new B414D with BD-154 in May of 1964 and in late July it gave a back fire through the air cleaner and quit and could not be started again. Luckily it was under warranty and IH fixed it. There was either no key in cam shaft or it sheared off. Pistons hit valves etc. We used tractor for another 10 years and put over 15,000 Hrs on the engine without anymore problems. We also had 434 and 384 with BD-154 and put many hours on them without engine problems. Re, the smoking problem, it is normal for an older BD-154 to smoke a bit if the throttle is yanked from idle to wide open. I remember communicating with you about a month ago, at that time did you checked the hydraulic system for loading the engine? IIRC, I had you check the temperature of the hydraulic pump with your hand. JimB [Reply]  [No Email]
John in Pennsylvania 11-22-2012 16:09:15 70.194.5.34 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to John in Pennsylvania, 11-22-2012 13:01:46   I just read an article that says the bd154 is known for woodruff key problems with the camshaft. Any one seen this????? [Reply]  [No Email]
The tractor vet 11-22-2012 18:01:09 76.212.227.196 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to John in Pennsylvania, 11-22-2012 16:09:15   No i have not but i have only worked on a couple . And you are sure that the valve lash is correct and that the intake is opening like it should . And with out knowing the spec's on the cam myself i think you would be shooting in the dark. So i am guessing that the only way to know IF it is a timing issue is to pull the ft of the engine off and start from square one and set everything from the get go . NOT fun . [Reply]  [No Email]
John in Pennsylvania 11-23-2012 02:01:46 174.255.57.246 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to The tractor vet, 11-22-2012 18:01:09   I want to look at the timing gears...just trying to avoid the FUN of pulling it all apart. [Reply]  [No Email]
John in Pennsylvania 11-22-2012 18:36:44 174.255.57.246 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to The tractor vet, 11-22-2012 18:01:09   I want to look at the timing gears...just trying to avoid the FUN of pulling it all apart. [Reply]  [No Email]
The tractor vet 11-22-2012 18:46:37 76.212.227.196 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to John in Pennsylvania, 11-22-2012 18:36:44   Ya got my phone # [Reply]  [No Email]
John in Pennsylvania 11-23-2012 02:01:42 174.255.57.246 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to The tractor vet, 11-22-2012 18:46:37   I might still....you can email it again if you would be so kind. jwmirz@gmail.com [Reply]  [No Email]
John in Pennsylvania 11-22-2012 18:56:49 174.255.57.246 Report to Moderator	Re: Question for you diesel guys in reply to The tractor vet, 11-22-2012 18:46:37   I might still....you can email it again if you would be so kind. jwmirz@gmail.com [Reply]  [No Email]